I am going to agree with Scott. Btw, I have access to e-mail Michael. Chris
>From: "Scott Olson"
>Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com
>To: nfc at actwin_com
>Subject: Re: NFC: salinaty torlorances of darters?
>Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 03:11:02 -0700
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>Kidt,
>
>You've illustrated why it is often not a good idea to mix tropicals
>and
>natives in the same tank.
>
>Rams are native to the Savannahs of northeastern South America.
>They
>require relatively warm water to thrive (85 degrees is about right).
> They
>also do best in soft, acid waters. Water parameters in their native
>habitat
>are pH of 5.5 to 6.0, very little if any measureable hardness. It
>is
>essentially rain water acidified by natural tannins. The rams
>probably
>succumbed quickly to the disease because they were stressed by
>inappropriate
>water conditions and low temperatures.
>
>As others have mentioned, native species, especially
>stream-dwellers, often
>suffer at temperatures that are appropriate for tropicals, and
>vice-versa.
>
>Best,
>
>Scott
>
>
>>From: "kidt cordry"
>>Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com
>>To: nfc at actwin_com
>>Subject: NFC: salinaty torlorances of darters?
>>Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:01:57 -0400
>>
>>Hi, I will introduce myself later,
>>
>>"business" first...
>>
>>I am dealing with an ick outbreak in my 35 gal.
>>
>>I have already lost several fish, including 1 of my fantail
>>darters.
>>
>>the darter wasn't exhibiting any signs of ick, so I think the salt
>>got her.
>>the male dosne't look too good right now either. I was afraid to
>>dose with
>>anything but salt to treat the ich, because of the 3 khuile loaches
>>in the
>>tank. I also increased the temp to 85F.
>>
>>either the salt or the temp, isn't doing my darters anygood. the
>>flagfish,
>>the blackskirts, the red eye, and the albino cory don;t seem to
>>mind.
>>
>>the main victims of the ich have been my rams and cherry barbs. i
>>got the
>>rams for 1$ apeice from an unlabed tank (couldn;t resist).i have
>>lost 3,
>>leaving me with one. I also have 1 surviving cherry barb as well
>>(2 dead).
>>I also lost a serpea. interestingly, the ph of the tank i got the
>>rams
>>from
>>at the store matched my tank water, 8.2(hard well) i suspect this
>>may be
>>the cause of the outbreak.
>>
>>so, how much salt can you get away with with darters?
>>
>>i don;t want to repeat the same mistake when i get my rainbows or
>>orange
>>throats.
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