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Re: NFC: salinaty torlorances of darters?

Kidt,

You've illustrated why it is often not a good idea to mix tropicals and 
natives in the same tank.

Rams are native to the Savannahs of northeastern South America.  They 
require relatively warm water to thrive (85 degrees is about right).  They 
also do best in soft, acid waters.  Water parameters in their native habitat 
are pH of 5.5 to 6.0, very little if any measureable hardness.  It is 
essentially rain water acidified by natural tannins.  The rams probably 
succumbed quickly to the disease because they were stressed by inappropriate 
water conditions and low temperatures.

As others have mentioned, native species, especially stream-dwellers, often 
suffer at temperatures that are appropriate for tropicals, and vice-versa.

Best,

Scott


>From: "kidt cordry" <kidtt at hotmail_com>
>Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com
>To: nfc at actwin_com
>Subject: NFC: salinaty torlorances of darters?
>Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:01:57 -0400
>
>Hi, I will introduce myself later,
>
>"business" first...
>
>I am dealing with an ick outbreak in my 35 gal.
>
>I have already lost several fish, including 1 of my fantail darters.
>
>the darter wasn't exhibiting any signs of ick, so I think the salt got her.
>the male dosne't look too good right now either.  I was afraid to dose with
>anything but salt to treat the ich, because of the 3 khuile loaches in the
>tank.  I also increased the temp to 85F.
>
>either the salt or the temp, isn't doing my darters anygood.  the flagfish,
>the blackskirts, the red eye, and the albino cory don;t seem to mind.
>
>the main victims of the ich have been my rams and cherry barbs.  i got the
>rams for 1$ apeice from an unlabed tank (couldn;t resist).i have lost 3,
>leaving me with one.  I also have 1 surviving cherry barb as well (2 dead).
>I also lost a serpea.  interestingly, the ph of the tank i got the rams 
>from
>at the store matched my tank water, 8.2(hard well)  i suspect this may be
>the cause of the outbreak.
>
>so, how much salt can you get away with with darters?
>
>i don;t want to repeat the same mistake when i get my rainbows or orange
>throats.
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