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Yes, NANFA as whole is a GREAT organization.  I do think they have
slightly (or not, depending on your perspective) goals as the NFC hopes to
be more broad-based beyond just North America in the future.  There are
great people in NANFA, many friends and people I have learned from.  There
are also a few individuals who's company I just can't abide and for that
reason chose to not renew my membership in NANFA for a time to allow
things to "cool down".  BUT, if you want to talk about who trashed whom, I
have heard a lot more public "trashing" of the NFC than I have of NANFA
over the past few years.  And frankly, I suspect some NANFA folks are
helping stir up this present controversy...which in actaulity isn't a
controversy but merely what one should consider an organizations "growing

 So come on folks, enough of the "who is better than whom", and all that
silly rot.  Let's get back to doing what we love; helping our native

Luke McClurg

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Susan Madison wrote:

> I just received a private message from someone on this list.  I won't
> mention their name but they tried to explain why NFC is good and NANFA is
> bad.  This person didn't know I've been around a long time and saw all the
> events that led to Robert Rice leaving NANFA a few years back.  What this
> person said to me is not true.  It's really disappointing when people use
> this stuff for motivation or advancement.  Is this how the NFC operates?
> I'm not going to say anything about Robert Rice's behavior or quitting at
> the time, because I'm sure anyone aware of the details at that time knows
> that process produced no saints OR victims.
> The people in NANFA are nice people as are you (lots of them ARE you and are
> on this list!).  We get their magazine and it is so fantastic.  And their
> email posts are as much fun to read as yours.  Okay, I prefer NANFA (now
> that makes me one of the enemy I suppose).  But it's not because I like this
> person or hate that person.  It's because NANFA is  more of a democracy, and
> people there aren't into titles or power.  They're into the good products
> and programs like all of you already know about.  I'm not advising you to
> join NANFA.  I just wonder if NFC can even function without constantly
> polishing up the old NANFA vs. NFC thing they've concocted?  That's why I
> won't join NFC.  So why not kill it starting now?  Good Karma will come back
> to you, I promise!
> Like I said:
> Life is short.
> Be nice to people.
> And stop substituting club association for a real identity.
> Peace.
> Signing off.
> Susan
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