There is a lot of talk about SAE's and how hard they are to find. I was at the Aquarium Center in Randallstown near Baltimore today and they had several sizes (babies and about medium size). I think they have about 6 or 700 tanks of fish and a bunch of plant tanks. They have a web site too. But I don't think they mail order. http://www.aquariumcenter.com/index.htm Bill Morrison