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NFC: Re: Majordomo vs. ListBot, Egroups, et al.


If Actwin will do it for us, Gnu Mailman will do all the things you are
asking for.  Once the sysadmin sets it all up, the list moderator only needs
to use a web interface to do anything they want.  It's more automated, there
are web based archives, you name it.  We're using it at work for customer
contact management.  The only pain for the sysadmin is adding new lists
which just requires him/her to telnet in and run a couple quick commands.
Once the list is up and running, the moderator can easily handle it.  I
would say it is very flexible and easier to use.  You can also put links to
unzubbing in the footer of each message since it is a web based interface.

Chris Hedemark - Hillsborough, NC
----- Original Message -----
From: "JLW" <JLW at pi_dune.net>
To: <NFC at actwin_com>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:56 PM
Subject: NFC: Majordomo vs. ListBot, Egroups, et al.

> Hey Everyone.
> RR jumped the gun a bit.  We had been discussing the idea of moving the
> list off of Actwin to a nonmajordomo server.  I've gotten a lot of
> different feedback since the initial post about the idea, and it mostly
> reconfirms exactly what I had in mind.  Right now:
>    We will NOT, now or ever, move to an online message board.  BBS died
> for a reason -- its a pain in the butt to have to go somewhere and get
> your messages.  An e-mail list is nice, because it arrives in your
> e-mail.  Anything else is a newsgroup, and we all know where those go.
> :)
>    We do need to move forward.  Majordomo is an old program that's
> starting to pass its time.  For every e-mail you all see, I probably get
> about five to ten in my mailbox.  I'm not kidding or exagerating -- ask
> RR, Klaus Shoening, or anyone else who's done fill-in duty.  There is
> ALWAYS an address on the list where someone's servers down or lagging,
> they canceled their service and didn't unsub, etc. etc.  This is a
> hassel for me, though I don't mind it. :)  However, future admin. for
> the list would find much difficulty in this.   Majordomo cannot easily
> link to a web page for unsubscribe/subscribe messages.  It can be done
> with forms or CGI, but there are inherant risks.
>    For the moment, I'm happy with Majordomo, but am looking for means to
> fix the following issues:
> 1:  Get something where subscribing, unsubscribing is easy.
> 2:  Make the archive searching a little easier, something like Egroups
> has.
> 3:  Add an option for people to just read/post as a bulletin board type
> mesasge, for those who do like Egroups/ListBot/etc.
> 4:  Cut down on my own private e-mail.
> The most important of these is number one, and we're presently looking
> for ways to do it without having to work Majordomo commands.
> JOshua.