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Re: Aquatic Plants Digest V3 #1395




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>Steve Dixon wrote:
>
>>I have grown wallichii well for a couple of years now and in my case my fat
>>SAE's who also love to eat the frozen live foods and who are not too
>>interested in the bit of algae here and there in my big tank just love to
>>mow down fresh wallichii.  The tender new growth is their favorite part of
>>the plant.  My wallichii is in favorable conditions and it fights back by
>>sprouting side branches as the new growth get mowed down...
>>I have tentatively decided that SAEs and wallichii are not a
>>compatible match for my conditions.  But I'm quite sure my wallichii is
>>offering good strong growth and putting up a fight.
>
>Maybe this is a case for a little detective work.  I believe your water is
>softer than mine.  I wonder if R. wallachii grown under some conditions is
>more palatable than others.  Can anyone else who has had experience one way
>or the other chime in with their water conditions?  Barring that, we get
>back to the old question, are all "SAE's" actually the same fish?<g>
>
>Olga wrote:
>
>>Hear! Hear! Karen, this is exactly what I have observed. In my opinion, if
>>SAEs start eating a plant, that plant or leaf is probably at death's door.
>>Or the SAE is not an SAE at all.
>
>Except that I've seen Steve's tank, and I know his plants are in good
>condition.  _AND_ I would have sworn on a stack of bibles that his SAE's
>are the same as mine.  So SOMETHING else must explain the differences we
>ware seeing.
>
>Karen

And my clown loaches don't eat any MTS's snails and my SAE's don't eat my
Rotala. Other conditions and behaviors with each fish and group are
different. Maybe behavior. 
My SAE's are the same as Steve's and the water isn't much different(or is it
Steve<g>?). I (and Jeff K.)saw them grinding the Rotala when it was sickly
once...........but not again after. I wish they'd eat my java moss<g>!!
Never seen them eat moss but would look forward to it! 
Snails are the best algae eater for this plant IMO and namely the common
pond snail but the other 2 types do well also. Perhaps some Bacopa
myriophylloides, M. matogrossense, Red 
Cabomba, red foxtail, or others might solve this. It (R. wallichii)is a nice
plant and sometimes we just have to have it!
Regards,
Tom Barr           P.S.      I'll see you this Sunday ..........right Steve?
We'll talk then.