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[APD] Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Java Ferm
On the other hand, this gross aquatic plant novice has simply weighted a piece of java fern down long enough for it to attach itself to a few pieces of gravel substrate and then removed the weight and allowed the gravel itself to hold it down.. I found it absolutely amazing that it can find something to "grasp" on smooth gravel!
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Today's Topics:
1. Java Fern (Randy Pullen)
2. Re: Re: ecosystem in aquarium (Jim Seidman)
3. Re: Java Fern (S. Hieber)
4. Re: Shrimp in ecospheres (NYCMags)
5. Re: Java Fern (Richard J. Sexton)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:31:52 -0700
From: "Randy Pullen" <RPullen at waterpik_com>
Subject: [APD] Java Fern
To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
Is it acceptable to plant java fern directly in to the substrate or is
it preferred to tie this plant to a rock or driftwood?
Thanks,
Randy
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:38:33 -0600
From: "Jim Seidman" <james at mail1_seidman.net>
Subject: Re: [APD] Re: ecosystem in aquarium
To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
Search the web a bit and you'll find a number of communities for people with
"balanced tanks," more commonly referred by those communities to as "natural
aquaria." I happen to have one myself.
I have a 35-gallon tank (tall hex no less!) with about 50W of ODNO lights.
There is no filtration at all, no pump for water movement, nothing. There's
just a submersible heater hidden behind a rock at the bottom. (Yes, the tank
develops a thermocline in winter, but it doesn't seem to bother anything.)
Three sides have cork board covered with varieties of Java Moss. Much of the
substrate (which is sand over topsoil) has plants that reach the surface
such as Vallisneria spiralis and Rotala rotundifolia. There are some smaller
foreground plants such as Echinodorus tenellus and Anubias.
The tank has not just three SAEs, but dozens of swordtails. (I only put in
three swordtails, but with all of the plants there are lots of hiding places
for babies.) It's hardly what I would call lightly stocked.
I do 50% water changes about twice a year. Aside from that I top off. Since
it's a covered tank, and a tall hex, evaporation isn't too bad.
I've found that the key to success (and Diana Walstad talks about the
importance of this too) is having plants reach the surface. Early on I would
do major prunings to allow the plants "room to grow." Problems (algae, fish
deaths, etc.) would inevitably result. Now when I prune I always leave a
fair number of plants reaching all the way to the surface, so they can get
atmospheric CO2.
So a pumpless filterless tank is hardly some theoretical construct. A lot of
people are doing these types of tanks. They just usually don't frequent APD.
- Jim
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:47:36 -0800 (PST)
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>
Subject: Re: [APD] Java Fern
To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
Tie it to something. It's not a rooted plant; it's a rock
clinger, tree hugger, an anything-suitably-wet-attacher. If
the leaves are kept wet, it can even be above the
waterline; like in the spray of a waterfall. The rhizome is
not happy underground. But tie it to a small rock or piece
of driftwood and you can achieve much the same visual
effect.
Scott H.
--- Randy Pullen <RPullen at waterpik_com> wrote:
> Is it acceptable to plant java fern directly in to the
> substrate or is
> it preferred to tie this plant to a rock or driftwood?
> Thanks,
> Randy
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:56:49 -0800 (PST)
From: NYCMags <heavensabvus1 at yahoo_com>
Subject: [APD] Re: Shrimp in ecospheres
To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
>>>Slightly smaller scale, but the principle is valid
(and they look cool):
http://www.eco-sphere.com/home.htm
http://www.abundantearth.com/store/ecosphere.html<<
Andrew-
It is my understanding that these are not true
"ecospheres" -- the shrimp are simply very, very
hardy, and while they are eating, they are not growing
or reproducing. It just takes a long time for them to
die. See the link below to an excellent article (and
terrific website!) for information on these
"ecospheres", especially the second paragraph. I
highly recommend this website for all things shrimp.
http://www.petshrimp.com/hawaiianredshrimp.html
Valerie
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:31:05 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard J. Sexton" <richard at aquaria_net>
Subject: Re: [APD] Java Fern
To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
At 08:31 AM 1/19/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>Is it acceptable to plant java fern directly in to the substrate or is
>it preferred to tie this plant to a rock or driftwood?
I've found if you stick it in the gravel that part dies and it floats to the
top. I always attack it to a rock or driftwood with fishing line - mostly
for the fun of trying to tie tiny little knots in very fine transparent
semi rigid plastic line. I bought a dollar store pair of reading glasses,
finally admitting my eyes aren't 22 any more, and this helps and gives
my kids an endless supply of ammunition for ribbing their poor father.
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