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Re: [APD] Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Java Ferm
It can stick to almost anything you might come across in an
aquarium. Just don't buy its bottom ;-)
sh
--- "auntie_fran at netzero.net" <auntie_fran at netzero.net>
wrote:
>
> On the other hand, this gross aquatic plant novice has
> simply weighted a piece of java fern down long enough for
> it to attach itself to a few pieces of gravel substrate
> and then removed the weight and allowed the gravel itself
> to hold it down.. I found it absolutely amazing that it
> can find something to "grasp" on smooth gravel!
>
>
> Growing old is inevitable; growing up is optional.
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> 1. Java Fern (Randy Pullen)
> 2. Re: Re: ecosystem in aquarium (Jim Seidman)
> 3. Re: Java Fern (S. Hieber)
> 4. Re: Shrimp in ecospheres (NYCMags)
> 5. Re: Java Fern (Richard J. Sexton)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:31:52 -0700
> From: "Randy Pullen" <RPullen at waterpik_com>
> Subject: [APD] Java Fern
> To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> Is it acceptable to plant java fern directly in to the
> substrate or is
> it preferred to tie this plant to a rock or driftwood?
> Thanks,
> Randy
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:38:33 -0600
> From: "Jim Seidman" <james at mail1_seidman.net>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Re: ecosystem in aquarium
> To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> Search the web a bit and you'll find a number of
> communities for people with
> "balanced tanks," more commonly referred by those
> communities to as "natural
> aquaria." I happen to have one myself.
>
> I have a 35-gallon tank (tall hex no less!) with about
> 50W of ODNO lights.
> There is no filtration at all, no pump for water
> movement, nothing. There's
> just a submersible heater hidden behind a rock at the
> bottom. (Yes, the tank
> develops a thermocline in winter, but it doesn't seem to
> bother anything.)
>
> Three sides have cork board covered with varieties of
> Java Moss. Much of the
> substrate (which is sand over topsoil) has plants that
> reach the surface
> such as Vallisneria spiralis and Rotala rotundifolia.
> There are some smaller
> foreground plants such as Echinodorus tenellus and
> Anubias.
>
> The tank has not just three SAEs, but dozens of
> swordtails. (I only put in
> three swordtails, but with all of the plants there are
> lots of hiding places
> for babies.) It's hardly what I would call lightly
> stocked.
>
> I do 50% water changes about twice a year. Aside from
> that I top off. Since
> it's a covered tank, and a tall hex, evaporation isn't
> too bad.
>
> I've found that the key to success (and Diana Walstad
> talks about the
> importance of this too) is having plants reach the
> surface. Early on I would
> do major prunings to allow the plants "room to grow."
> Problems (algae, fish
> deaths, etc.) would inevitably result. Now when I prune I
> always leave a
> fair number of plants reaching all the way to the
> surface, so they can get
> atmospheric CO2.
>
> So a pumpless filterless tank is hardly some theoretical
> construct. A lot of
> people are doing these types of tanks. They just usually
> don't frequent APD.
>
> - Jim
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:47:36 -0800 (PST)
> From: "S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Java Fern
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> Tie it to something. It's not a rooted plant; it's a rock
> clinger, tree hugger, an anything-suitably-wet-attacher.
> If
> the leaves are kept wet, it can even be above the
> waterline; like in the spray of a waterfall. The rhizome
> is
> not happy underground. But tie it to a small rock or
> piece
> of driftwood and you can achieve much the same visual
> effect.
>
> Scott H.
> --- Randy Pullen <RPullen at waterpik_com> wrote:
>
> > Is it acceptable to plant java fern directly in to the
> > substrate or is
> > it preferred to tie this plant to a rock or driftwood?
> > Thanks,
> > Randy
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> plants
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> March 18-20, 2005 at the Marriott Hotel, Farmington, CT
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:56:49 -0800 (PST)
> From: NYCMags <heavensabvus1 at yahoo_com>
> Subject: [APD] Re: Shrimp in ecospheres
> To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
>
> >>>Slightly smaller scale, but the principle is valid
> (and they look cool):
>
> http://www.eco-sphere.com/home.htm
> http://www.abundantearth.com/store/ecosphere.html<<
>
> Andrew-
>
> It is my understanding that these are not true
> "ecospheres" -- the shrimp are simply very, very
> hardy, and while they are eating, they are not growing
> or reproducing. It just takes a long time for them to
> die. See the link below to an excellent article (and
> terrific website!) for information on these
> "ecospheres", especially the second paragraph. I
> highly recommend this website for all things shrimp.
>
> http://www.petshrimp.com/hawaiianredshrimp.html
>
> Valerie
>
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:31:05 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Richard J. Sexton" <richard at aquaria_net>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Java Fern
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> At 08:31 AM 1/19/2005 -0700, you wrote:
> >Is it acceptable to plant java fern directly in to the
> substrate or is
> >it preferred to tie this plant to a rock or driftwood?
>
> I've found if you stick it in the gravel that part dies
> and it floats to the
> top. I always attack it to a rock or driftwood with
> fishing line - mostly
> for the fun of trying to tie tiny little knots in very
> fine transparent
> semi rigid plastic line. I bought a dollar store pair of
> reading glasses,
> finally admitting my eyes aren't 22 any more, and this
> helps and gives
> my kids an endless supply of ammunition for ribbing their
> poor father.
>
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