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RE: [APD] Removes "heavy metals"?
So I guess there isn't really an issue here. The conditioner is not going
to have an impact on the ferts/nutrients/traces for the plants.
Thanks for clearing that up!
From: S. Hieber [mailto:shieber at yahoo_com]
Sent: 17 August 2004 00:42
To: aquatic plants digest
Subject: RE: [APD] Removes "heavy metals"?
I believe Dr. Morin's basic point was that Prime "grabs"
the heavy metals before iron and such.
--- Laith Arif <laith at swissonline_ch> wrote:
> Ok, thanks for the info and the links.
> So Greg Morin is correct when he says "This should not be
> an issue unless
> you are really wanting to keep high levels of lead,
> mercury and cadmium ;-)
> (all toxic heavy metals)."?
> It's mainly these toxic heavy metals that are
> The reason I asked in the first place was just wondering
> whether at every
> water change and the addition of the conditioner, I was
> basically starting
> out with water "bare" of all metals and needed to take
> this into account
> when dosing ferts and traces.
> Thanks for the input.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: S. Hieber [mailto:shieber at yahoo_com]
> Sent: 16 August 2004 11:36
> To: aquatic plants digest
> Subject: Re: [APD] Removes "heavy metals"?
> None of hte elements in the aquariumare, say, converted
> energy -- if they are there before the conditioner is
> added, they are there afterwards. It's a matter of the
> chemical or ionic bonds and what compounds are in the
> Conditioners that "remove" chloramine break up the
> into constituents that can then remain separate or
> recombine with other elements to form new compounds.
> Something that breaks up chloramine could leave your tank
> with a sudden dose of ammonia.
> Some conditioners bind the elements and bind some
> heavy metals. The metal elements are not gone, but tied
> in a compound that is presumably less risky to fish or
> plants. Some conditioners, like SeaChem Prime break up
> chloramine and then "grab" the nitrogen in a new compound
> less harmful to fish but still available to plants as a
> There is an order of "preference" for what metals a
> conditioner will grab.
> There are lots of posts in the archives. Here are a few:
> It matters what conditioner you use. If you have
> chloramines, you want something thatdoesn't leave you
> a sudden dose of ammonia. As for trace metals, I don't
> think it's an issue. If there is nothing else to bind,
> iron might be bound but the amount is small and a worthy
> trade-off for gaurding against chlorine, chloramine, and
> heavy metals. And the bound iron can still be gotten by
> plants eventually.
> Good luck, good fun,
> Scott H.
> --- Laith Arif <laith at swissonline_ch> wrote:
> > I'm curious to know what exactly my water conditioner
> > (JBL Biotopol) means
> > by "removes heavy metals"... Does anyone know?
> > Just wondering if besides removing chlorine and
> > chloramine it's also
> > removing useful plant nutrients (micro and/or macro).
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