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Re: NFC: Re: Collecting and BP...ETC

Well, 27 messages this morn, one would have been
sufficient.

I frankly am ready to go to the piggy bank and get $10
and send it on to Chris and then put a block on his
posts. I have had far more then enough of his
sophomoric attacks. 

He has raised a good point or two, BUT his method of
doing it , the adversarial style, really suck,
particularly for someone who signs themselves
'pastor'.


The calling of RR 'clinton' is dispicable, and he cant
hide behind that it was a rhetorical remark, it was an
analogy , far better suited to the National Enquirer.
It was pure sleeze.

The idea of shortening officer terms is ill-advised at
best, he obviously has no experience in these types of
organizations, and I question how much in any.

In short, I am fed up with 'pastor chris' and his
posion pen and simply wish him well, well away from
us.

I am in strong support of the NFC refunding his dues
and biddingg him farewell for his behavior. Questions,
accountability etc are all well and good. This kind of
adversarial behavior has no business in a hobby
organization, or any other for that matter.

He might find a better home in nanfa. Obviously he is
not happy here and I for sure am not happy with his
being here. His leaving will make two people happy. I
suspect many more.
jake

--- JCapelle <JCapelle at tampabay_rr.com> wrote:
> Luke,
>     Good to hear from you on this, because you have
> stated most of my
> feelings on this tread. If Chris is a member in good
> (?) standing and is
> unhappy on how this group has been working or if he
> is from another group
> that wants to see a split start in the NFC group
> (which I think is a failing
> attempt), I will give him his $10.00 back, because
> he sounds upset about
> something here. If he needs to nit-pick on issues
> there are bigger pickings
> around, look at the mess the AM. Red Cross is in, or
> what about the United
> Way next?
> 
>     As Wally B. brings up in another E-mail, I put a
> lot of $10-$25's in
> many clubs around the area and nationally, heck, I
> still pay $15.00 to a Koi
> club and I don't even have any more Koi or Goldfish,
> just like reading the
> newsletters.
> 
>     Everyone gets what they want out of the groups
> they join. I like the
> information and sometime auctions (great deals here)
> to get fish that I
> can't get from local farms or stores. I've met a few
> of the members and made
> new friends.
> 
>     As a member who has stomped into deep mud to
> remove Exotics from the
> local areas, I will say that I never got enough to
> sell to a local fish
> store myself. I have kept most of what I haven't
> eaten, (yes Tilapia is good
> eating, the price is better then $5.00 at the food
> market.) Today at work,
> another worker that I had turned on to collecting
> Exotics, asked if he could
> eat a 2 (1/2?(His hands said three feet)) foot Placo
> he had got (netted)
> this past weekend. I told him that I haven't, but
> know of someone who does.
> 
>     Hey I've done it again and got off on another
> rolling talk. Good Night
> for now. JiM C.
> 
> P.S. Robert the membership renewal has not been
> mailed yet, but this week is
> a pay week. JC
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mcclurg luke e" <mcclurgl at washburn_edu>
> To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:43 PM
> Subject: Re: NFC: Re: Collecting and BP...ETC
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > > However I think that is a compelling reason for
> our bylaws regarding
> > > officer's terms to be adjusted for shorter
> terms.  Right now it is a 3
> year
> > > term.  Actually I think we're coming up on that
> term limit soon aren't
> we?
> >
> >
> > Okay, I've kept out of this mostly up until
> now...but I want to say
> > something.  I for one am not too concerned about
> where my measely $10
> > membership per year (which I need to get in the
> mail ASAP) goes.  The fact
> > that the NFC has and is providing education to
> many about native fish
> > species is what is paramount here...not who cashes
> the checks.  For that
> > matter as a 501c corp. we have to keep our
> finances "out in the open" as
> > it is.  Plus, considering our small member base,
> it's not like we are
> > talking huge bucks here.  I also don't like the
> idea of tampering with the
> > length of the terms.  I still think that is a flaw
> in NANFA's
> > administration, as it gives practically no time to
> implement policies and
> > ideas before "new" people come rushing in to
> further their own
> > agendas.  It's happened in the past and the
> organization (which as a whole
> > I like, but there are individuals I have nothing
> but utter cotempt
> > for) has suffered greatly from such interal
> "politiking".  I want none of
> > it here.  If individuals don't like the way things
> are going, my simple
> > advice is to either just accept it or leave.  We
> don't need this kind of
> > silly debate in this organization.  It's petty,
> divides us, and draw
> > attention away from our main purpose.
> >
> > Luke
> >
> >
> 
> 


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