In a message dated 12/8/1999 1:44:23 PM Mountain Standard Time, Aquatic-Plants-Owner at actwin_com writes: > Rams - sold, inetrestingly enough, as "German Rams" although > they look like > > Papilochromis ramirezi to me.) German rams are ramerezi that are imported from Germany. They are generally healthier that the same fish from Asia. Bob Dixon