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Re: Please help--NEONS dropping like flies!

The rule of thumb for tropicals is 1inch of fish per gallon isn't it? You
added 70in all at once to a 60g? That must've been quite a shock to a
biofilter established to handle 3 discus, 2 false SAE, and 6 shrimps. I
suspect that even if you added these neon a few at a time you'll have
problems with that stocking level.

How big are those discus anyway?

Also, how do you figure that a water change will do more harm than good when
you don't know what your current parameters are? Whether your water is soft
or hard, high or low pH, I think that changing 10g (out of 60) shouldn't
upset things too much.


>From: T Tran <zzttzz at hotmail_com>

>Recently (5 days ago), I bought about 70 "jumbo" neons tetras form
>Just today, I came home to a tank that has about 45 or so left. My brother
>says that they have been dying one after another all day long. Within the
>last few hours, I've remove about 5 of them. I dunno the pH--I dont have a
>test kit--I never have had to test before. That is, I can tell pretty much
>by how my fishes look whether they are stressed, and besides, I haven't had
>stressed fish in the last four years or so, let alone something dying on
>Ive have never had neons before, however.
>60 gallons
>neons < 50 (going down)
>3 discus
>2 false SAE
>6 shrimps
>I'm planning on buying some amquel tomorrow and doubling the dosage. I've
>cut the feedings for the now. I cannot do a water change--water here is
>hard and alkaline; I'd probably do more damage if I change the water now
>I cannot afford to buy water. (also, I'd have to change water slowly to
>minimize shock and I don't have the time right now. I have finals next
>While the neons have a 30 days on them, I still am very bothered by their
>deaths. I will be taking the dead ones back to get them replaced. Any
>is greatly appreciated and thanks in advance. Any ideas, any hypothesis,
>theories, anything.