Moontanman writes: > Everyone keeps talking about SAE's is this the same as otto cats? are they > comparable? No, not even close. Ottos come from South America and are loricariid cats (like plecos and whiptails). SAEs (Siamese Algae Eaters) are from Southeast Asia and are more closely related to Flying Foxes. I think they're barbs. See http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org/cyprinid.html . Bob Dixon