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Re: [APD] Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 94, Issue 6



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Today's Topics:

1. re  light fixture (RMGTBTS at aol_com)
2. Re: re light fixture (Jerry  Baker)
3. Re: re light fixture  (tomokoschum at knology_net)
4. Re: re light fixture (Erik  Olson)


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Message:  1
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:25:10 -0500 (EST)
From:  RMGTBTS at aol_com
Subject: [APD] re light fixture
To:  aquatic-plants at actwin_com

Hi Erik!

well IMHO Coralite fixed the  problem with the bad ballasts.  I had the  
same experience with  past failures but found that the more recent models 
have  
better  ballasts and  j am currently running 6 strips all for over 18   
months 
now with no problems.

i dont have any with fans as i find  unless in a canopy its just more  
power usage. Besides the cats hate  them.

I am running 2WPG or about that on each tank and strips are 65's  96's  and 
130"s (2x65's on strip), so a good variety to  evaluate.

i think the old ballasts came from and were manufactured by  a  company 
outside of the US.  GEE imagine that.

but I  cant wait to hear about the LED's and their ratings as to life of   
unit and plant growth.

rich green
milton  ma

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 25  Jan 2012 09:47:56 -0800
From: Jerry Baker  <jbaker6953 at gmail_com>
Subject: Re: [APD] re light fixture
To:  aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>

On 1/25/2012  9:25 AM, RMGTBTS at aol_com wrote:
> but I cant wait to hear about the  LED's and their ratings as to life of
> unit and plant  growth.

Some of Cree's new LED emitters have efficiencies over 100  lumens per 
watt and emit fairly strongly in the blue portion of the  spectrum, which 
is good for plants. They even come in high-CRI color bins  which means 
the fish and plants will show off their true colors. The  expense isn't 
too bad when you consider that these LEDs should have a  useful life of 
over 10 years on a 12-hour cycle. You could achieve the  same lighting 
levels as an AH Supply 55W kit using only 45 watts or so.  The issue 
seems to be that nobody is really manufacturing aquarium lights  using 
these emitters  yet.


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Message: 3
Date: Wed,  25 Jan 2012 13:41:26 -0500
From: tomokoschum at knology_net
Subject: Re:  [APD] re light fixture
To: "aquatic plants digest"  <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>


I just purchased two 9W screw-in  LED lamps that are used for terrarium and 
vivarium.  They are amazingly  bright.  I believe that their color temp is 
6500K.

I am in the  process of building a  vivarium (out of a 20 gallon high) 
using some  emersed grown aquatic plants and some terrarium friendly plants and 
I cannot  really tell you how effective they are for growing aquatic plants 
in an  aquarium.  However, judging from the fact that many dart frog and 
tree  frog hobbyists are growing gorgeous Bromeliads and other plants in their  
vivarium, I suspect that these lamps should do just fine for small planted  
aquariums.  I have to ask my friend to let me borrow his PAR meter to  tell 
what the PPFD values are, but I got the feeling that they are much  
brighter than the majority of the common CF's.  They are somewhat pricey,  but it's 
not bad at all if you take its 40,000 hour life into  consideration.

I got my light at this site:  http://www.lightyourreptiles.com/
The screw-in LED's are listed toward the  bottom of the page.


On Wed 25/01/12 12:47 PM , Jerry Baker  jbaker6953 at gmail_com sent:
> On 1/25/2012 9:25 AM, RMGTBTS at aol_c
>  om wrote:> but I cant wait to hear about the LED's and their
>  ratings as to life of> unit and plant growth.
> 
> Some of  Cree's new LED emitters have efficiencies over 100 lumens per 
> watt  and emit fairly strongly in the blue portion of the spectrum, which
> is  good for plants. They even come in high-CRI color bins which means 
>  the fish and plants will show off their true colors. The expense isn't  
> too bad when you consider that these LEDs should have a useful life  of 
> over 10 years on a 12-hour cycle. You could achieve the same  lighting 
> levels as an AH Supply 55W kit using only 45 watts or so.  The issue 
> seems to be that nobody is really manufacturing aquarium  lights using 
> these emitters yet.
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Message:  4
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:19:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Erik Olson  <erik at thekrib_com>
Subject: Re: [APD] re light fixture
To: aquatic  plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>

On Wed, 25 Jan 2012,  Jerry Baker wrote:

> On 1/25/2012 9:25 AM, RMGTBTS at aol_com  wrote:
>> but I cant wait to hear about the LED's and their ratings  as to life of
>> unit and plant growth.
>
> Some of  Cree's new LED emitters have efficiencies over 100 lumens per 
watt 
>  and emit fairly strongly in the blue portion of the spectrum, which is 
good  
> for plants. They even come in high-CRI color bins which means the  fish 
and 
> plants will show off their true colors. The expense isn't  too bad when 
you 
> consider that these LEDs should have a useful life  of over 10 years on a 
> 12-hour cycle. You could achieve the same  lighting levels as an AH 
Supply 55W 
> kit using only 45 watts or so.  The issue seems to be that nobody is 
really 
> manufacturing aquarium  lights using these emitters yet.

I'm building an 8emitter setup of Cree  XM-L's for a 95-gallon Tanganyika 
tank.  Trying to dream up a way to  cool it with tank water by passing 
tubing up from the tank and across the  top of an aluminum channel or 
inside an aluminum tube & running a  circulation pump.  The hangup is 
finding a tubing material that  doesn't insulate too much yet is also inert 
& won't leach into the  tank.  For instance, copper?  I don't think so. 
Maybe a  thin-wall vinyl tube against the channel?

Anyway, it's a bit of a fun  experiment.  I may abandon the water cooling 
entirely.  Planning  to run it at 1.7 amps = 40 watts total, which should 
be great for a  non-planted aquarium.  But because the XM-L's can be pushed 
to 3+  amps, one could imagine doubling the power on this little rig and 
getting  enough lighting for a medium-level 55 or a high-light 29.  But  
expensive.  Think $200 just for all the parts.

-  Erik

-- 
Erik Olson
Sent from my spiffy new Linux  box



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