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> 1. Re: Did everyone run out of plant questions (REDRAGON40 at aol_com)
> 2. Re: Did everyone run out of plant questions (TBarber)
> 3. Lighting Peroids & Duration (Brown, Daniel)
> 4. Re: Lighting Peroids & Duration (Vaughn Hopkins)
> 5. Re: Disposing of Unwanted Fish (Richard J. Sexton)
> 6. Re: Twigs? (Richard J. Sexton)
> 7. Re: Twigs? (Joel Fizette)
> 8. Re: Twigs? (Dennis Dietz)
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> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 15:50:45 EDT
> From: REDRAGON40 at aol_com
> Subject: Re: [APD] Did everyone run out of plant questions
> To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
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> I posted a plant question a while ago, but everyone seemed so absorbed in
> euthanasia, that it didn't get noticed.
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> Carol < ' )))><
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 16:03:00 -0400
> From: "TBarber" <terbarb at alltel_net>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Did everyone run out of plant questions
> To: "aquatic plants digest" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
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> We were too busy killing fish.....lol. Let's see it again.
>
> TerryB
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> Subject: Re: [APD] Did everyone run out of plant questions
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>> I posted a plant question a while ago, but everyone seemed so absorbed in
>> euthanasia, that it didn't get noticed.
>>
>> Carol < ' )))><
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> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 13:49:55 -0700
> From: "Brown, Daniel" <dpbrown at ea_com>
> Subject: [APD] Lighting Peroids & Duration
> To: "aquatic plants digest" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> Currently my 29G planted tank has two power compact lamps (one with a
> plant specific bulb and one with a fish/viewing bulb) and a LED moon
> light, the power compacts are on for the following periods each day (the
> moonlight is on the rest of the time):
> 07:30 to 09:00 - To let me check everyone is alive before I go
> to work and for the morning feed.
> 14:30 to 22:30 - The main day cycle.
>
> I'm currently thinking about changing this (mainly as I'd like to see
> the tank contents during the day at the weekends more) to one big period
> but staggering the lamps start times to create a dawn & dusk cycle:
> 08:00 to 22:00 - The plant specific lamp & bulb combo.
> 09:00 to 21:00 - The fish/viewing lamp & bulb combo
>
> Does this seem like a good idea? Should I keep a noon break in the
> sequence for an hour by maybe only turning off the plant specific bulb?
> Also which bulb/lamp should be on for the longer time, I'd imagine the
> plant specific bulb would result in more algae (even though it looks
> dimmer) than the bulb that's for making fish nice to look at?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Daniel
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 14:04:12 -0700
> From: Vaughn Hopkins <hoppycalif at yahoo_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Lighting Peroids & Duration
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> What are the wattages of the bulbs? If the total is more than about
> 60-70 watts, you should be limiting the time that both bulbs are on
> to about 8 - 10 hours. I'm not sure what the difference is between
> the "plant specific" and "fish viewing" bulbs, either as to wattage
> or color temperature, so I don't know which should be on the
> longest. I do know that algae are not more likely to grow well under
> either one. If you provide the algae with adequate food and CO2, and
> stimulate it to start growing by allowing the fertilizer levels in
> the tank to fluctuate too much, or allowing the daytime CO2
> concentration to vary too much, you will grow algae with any bulb.
>
> Vaughn
>
> On May 2, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Brown, Daniel wrote:
>
>> Currently my 29G planted tank has two power compact lamps (one with a
>> plant specific bulb and one with a fish/viewing bulb) and a LED moon
>> light, the power compacts are on for the following periods each day
>> (the
>> moonlight is on the rest of the time):
>> 07:30 to 09:00 - To let me check everyone is alive before I go
>> to work and for the morning feed.
>> 14:30 to 22:30 - The main day cycle.
>>
>> I'm currently thinking about changing this (mainly as I'd like to see
>> the tank contents during the day at the weekends more) to one big
>> period
>> but staggering the lamps start times to create a dawn & dusk cycle:
>> 08:00 to 22:00 - The plant specific lamp & bulb combo.
>> 09:00 to 21:00 - The fish/viewing lamp & bulb combo
>>
>> Does this seem like a good idea? Should I keep a noon break in the
>> sequence for an hour by maybe only turning off the plant specific
>> bulb?
>> Also which bulb/lamp should be on for the longer time, I'd imagine the
>> plant specific bulb would result in more algae (even though it looks
>> dimmer) than the bulb that's for making fish nice to look at?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Daniel
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 22:40:23 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Richard J. Sexton" <richard at aquaria_net>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Disposing of Unwanted Fish
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> At 04:37 PM 5/1/07 -0400, you wrote:
>>"And now for something entirely different. . . Have folks had much luck
>>"stunting" the growth of crypts, say wendtii, without provoking
>>meltdowns?"
>
> The meltdown occurs when things change quickly, not drastically, that is
> you
> can go from high light good co2 to a dark atrophic mess alright, just not
> overnight.
>
> The smaller the tank the smaller the plant. The smaller the root mass the
> smaller the
> plant; get a square glass cube candle holder thingy for a buck at a dollar
> store
> and put gravel and the plant(s) in there. Instant crypt bonsai.
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 22:44:35 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Richard J. Sexton" <richard at aquaria_net>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Twigs?
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> At 02:23 PM 5/1/07 -0700, you wrote:
>>I was at the Vancouver Public Aquarium this weekend and I saw they had a
>>really interesting Checkerboard Dwarf Cichlid set-up which was
>>interesting for two reasons:
>>1. Stocking: They had allot of checkerboards in the tank, I think it
>>must have easily been one checkerboard per 25cm^3 of tank bottom!
>>2. Twigs & Branches: They'd used twigs and very small branches (diameter
>>less than 4cm) to create lots & lots of territory markers for the
>>cichlids, which is how I'm guessing they managed to get so many dwarves
>>into the tank without a blood bath.
>>
>>My query is where can I get similar branches and twigs that would be
>>suitable for a South American set-up and that would not float? I've
>>never seen any size or shape of bog wood smaller/finer than the
>>chunk/lumps of bogwood that's at least the size of your fist offered for
>>sale at stores...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Daniel
>
> Use waterlogged sticks from a river if you like to live dangerously,
> or let some dry sticks soak they they are waterlogged. Or glue them
> with silicone to a couple of large flat rocks.
>
> You should disinfect any wild wood - soak in copper sulphate and a
> hydrochloric
> acid rinse will kill anything.
>
> Alum and salt would probably do the trick too.
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 03:09:33 -0700
> From: "Joel Fizette" <sentientpuppet at gmail_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Twigs?
> To: "aquatic plants digest" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> I think I remember reading somewhere that copper sulphate is used to
> control
> algae...
> Now are you saying to mix hyrochloric acid and copper sulphate together?
> I'm planning on collecting some wood soon.
> would a bleach bath do just as well?
>
>
> On 5/2/07, Richard J. Sexton <richard at aquaria_net> wrote:
>>
>> At 02:23 PM 5/1/07 -0700, you wrote:
>> >I was at the Vancouver Public Aquarium this weekend and I saw they had a
>> >really interesting Checkerboard Dwarf Cichlid set-up which was
>> >interesting for two reasons:
>> >1. Stocking: They had allot of checkerboards in the tank, I think it
>> >must have easily been one checkerboard per 25cm^3 of tank bottom!
>> >2. Twigs & Branches: They'd used twigs and very small branches (diameter
>> >less than 4cm) to create lots & lots of territory markers for the
>> >cichlids, which is how I'm guessing they managed to get so many dwarves
>> >into the tank without a blood bath.
>> >
>> >My query is where can I get similar branches and twigs that would be
>> >suitable for a South American set-up and that would not float? I've
>> >never seen any size or shape of bog wood smaller/finer than the
>> >chunk/lumps of bogwood that's at least the size of your fist offered for
>> >sale at stores...
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >
>> >Daniel
>>
>> Use waterlogged sticks from a river if you like to live dangerously,
>> or let some dry sticks soak they they are waterlogged. Or glue them
>> with silicone to a couple of large flat rocks.
>>
>> You should disinfect any wild wood - soak in copper sulphate and a
>> hydrochloric
>> acid rinse will kill anything.
>>
>> Alum and salt would probably do the trick too.
>>
>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 07:42:36 -0500
> From: Dennis Dietz <dennisdietz at verizon_net>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Twigs?
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> I've never had an issue using bleach alone. Your mileage may vary though.
>
> Dennis
>
> Joel Fizette wrote:
>> I think I remember reading somewhere that copper sulphate is used to
>> control
>> algae...
>> Now are you saying to mix hyrochloric acid and copper sulphate together?
>> I'm planning on collecting some wood soon.
>> would a bleach bath do just as well?
>>
>>
>> On 5/2/07, Richard J. Sexton <richard at aquaria_net> wrote:
>>
>>> At 02:23 PM 5/1/07 -0700, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was at the Vancouver Public Aquarium this weekend and I saw they had
>>>> a
>>>> really interesting Checkerboard Dwarf Cichlid set-up which was
>>>> interesting for two reasons:
>>>> 1. Stocking: They had allot of checkerboards in the tank, I think it
>>>> must have easily been one checkerboard per 25cm^3 of tank bottom!
>>>> 2. Twigs & Branches: They'd used twigs and very small branches
>>>> (diameter
>>>> less than 4cm) to create lots & lots of territory markers for the
>>>> cichlids, which is how I'm guessing they managed to get so many dwarves
>>>> into the tank without a blood bath.
>>>>
>>>> My query is where can I get similar branches and twigs that would be
>>>> suitable for a South American set-up and that would not float? I've
>>>> never seen any size or shape of bog wood smaller/finer than the
>>>> chunk/lumps of bogwood that's at least the size of your fist offered
>>>> for
>>>> sale at stores...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>> Use waterlogged sticks from a river if you like to live dangerously,
>>> or let some dry sticks soak they they are waterlogged. Or glue them
>>> with silicone to a couple of large flat rocks.
>>>
>>> You should disinfect any wild wood - soak in copper sulphate and a
>>> hydrochloric
>>> acid rinse will kill anything.
>>>
>>> Alum and salt would probably do the trick too.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
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