Re: [APD] Co2 poisoning? chlorine maybe? help!

["Joel Fizette" <sentientpuppet at gmail_com>]

Yeah I think I will phone them today... on a sad note all my barbs and bala
sharks are dead except for one lonely bala... But I want to get some angels
anyway. I think I may have figured out what the problem was. I think there
was problably a spike in the ph that caused them to maybe get some sort of
bacterial infections? sound likely? a couple of them had bloody spots or
some sort of fuzzy white stuff on them.

On 2/22/06, S. Hieber <shieber at yahoo_com> wrote:
>
>
> Neutralizes chloramine, but it doesn't day what it does with the ammonia
> that result from busting up the chloramine.
>
> sh
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Stuart Halliday <stuart at stuarthalliday_com>
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:26:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [APD] Co2 poisoning? chlorine maybe? help!
>
>
> I believe Andrew McLeod wrote this email section below:
> > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:23:52 -0000, Joel Fizette
> > <sentientpuppet at gmail_com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes I do add an anti-chloramine the same one I stated in my origional
> >> post. I've been using it for over a year without any problems.
> >
> > Although it may not be the source of your problems (or indeed a problem
> > at all), I can't find evidence on Google that Wardley's Chlor-Out deals
> > with the ammonia produced from the splitting of the chlorine-ammonia
> bond
> > in chloramine properly.
>
> Their web site on this product just says:
>
> Wardley(r) Essentials™ Chlor Out™ safely and effectively neutralizes
> chlorine
> and chloramines in tap water. Municipal water companies add chlorine or
> chloramines to the water supply to kill harmful bacteria.
>
> This can be hazardous or even fatal to ornamental aquarium fish. Wardley(r)
> Essentials™ Chlor Out™ will instantly condition tap water when changing or
> adding water to the aquarium and when transporting or transferring fish.
>
> Wardley(r) Essentials™ Chlor Out™ has little impact on biological
> filtration.
>
>
>
> I thought American companies had to list ingredients?
>
> The owner of this product can phone them and ask them to be sure?
>
> 1-800-275-1414
>
>
> > Many manufacturers claim to deal with chloramine,
> > but actually only split the molecule up and deal with the chlorine part,
> > and do not deal with the ammonia part.
>
> Shocking.
>
> > In many cases where a region has
> > suddenly switched to using chloramine at a high level, people have
> > reported sudden fish deaths after water changes when using the cheaper
> > dechlorinators.
>
>
> Happened in Edinburgh, Scotland last year.
>
> Many dozens of families woke up to dead fish one week as the water
> supplier
> switched to chloramine without tell anyone!
>
>
> --
> Stuart Halliday
>
>
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