I have seen the fish called denisonii in Practical Fishkeeping and TFH. By the way, the guy I mentioned, Mark Denaro, has had these fish for much more reasonable prices . I think he offered them as low as $7.50. Carol _______________________________________________ Aquatic-Plants mailing list Aquatic-Plants at actwin_com http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo/aquatic-plants