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[APD] Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 23, Issue 33
Botia striata are fine with plants and more suitable than most species of Botia.
They eat snails...........
Regards,
Tom Barr
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 23, Issue 31 - Message 11
(Mickey Stock)
2. Re: snails and loaches (Mariano F. Bonfante)
3. Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 23, Issue 32 (Mike Wickham)
4. Re: Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 23, Issue 32 (Terry Barber)
5. Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 23, Issue 32 (Laser)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:22:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mickey Stock <drstock at snet_net>
Subject: [APD] Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 23, Issue 31 - Message
11
To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
Just ask the glass company to cut it to side and grind the edges slightly to get rid of some of the sharpness. This should be fairfly cheap and I've done it lots of times. However, if you asked to have the edges finished, or beveled, that really adds up the cost and it is usually several dollars or more per edge and that may be where your $55 price came from.
Mickey
Message: 11
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 05:34:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Hieber"
Subject: Re: [APD] glass lid
To: James H , aquatic plants digest
$55? Oy!
Think "glass cutter" and get the 30x12. Or ask what the
local glass shop or auto-glass store what they would charge
to cut it for you. But really, $55 for a littel piece of
glass like that? It should only be a few bucks for 1/8" or
3/16" glass. It doesn't need to be tempered or heat
resistant boro-silicate glass, just ordinary glass.
Scott H
--- James H wrote:
> hi, im looking for a glass lid for 2 of my aquariums,
> both need a lid
> that measures 29X12 and all i can find are lids for 30X12
> does anyone
> know where i can find a lid for these tanks. local glass
> companies
> are out of the question as they tried to charge me 55$
> for glass to
> fit my 5.5g!
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:11:19 +0000
From: "Mariano F. Bonfante" <mariano_bonfante at hotmail_com>
Subject: Re: [APD] snails and loaches
To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
Does anybody has experience with Botia striata?. I found some of these in
the local market, and I would like to know if they are ok with plants.
Mariano
>From: "S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>
>Reply-To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>Subject: Re: [APD] snails and loaches
>Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 05:07:44 -0700 (PDT)
>
>soak briefly in hydrated lime, then rinse. Lime-it is a
>commmerical version that works.
>
>sh
>
>--- Vaughn Hopkins <hoppy1 at surewest_net> wrote:
>
> > . . . My experience was that putting
> > plants in the tank
> > just about guarantees putting snails there too. I
> > suppose there are
> > effective ways to kill the snail eggs before planting the
> > plants, but I
> > never tried any. . .
>
>Share the fun; show your work.
>The AGA's Sixth Annual International Aquascaping Contest is open.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:13:37 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" <mewickham at compuserve_com>
Subject: [APD] Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 23, Issue 32
To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> To try and defeat an ich outbreak in my tank I am in the 3rd week of an
> 'every other day 50% water change' regimen with temps up around 85-86.
The recommendation to raise the temperature does little good. I put it in
the class of aquarium myth because, though it does speed the life cycle of
the ich parasite, it also decreases oxygen levels in the tank. If the fish's
gills are loaded with ich parasites, decreasing oxygen may kill them when a
longer cycle of infection won't.
> I was unable/unwilling to use any medications for fear of losing/harming
> my
> plants/shrimp/botia. In the process I did lose a Cory or two but others
> (including Neons) have made it through the spots unscathed.
Straight malachite green ich medications work very well and very fast. Treat
every day until the dots are gone, and then at least one extra day, as the
parasites can only be killed in the stages where they've dropped off the
fish. Typical treatment is 3 or 4 days. Be sure to remove carbon from the
filter during treatment, as it removes the medication. Malachite green will
slightly color the water for a few hours. Repeated use may slightly stain
silicone seals in aquariums. But, properly dosed, MG won't hurt your
plants/fish/inverts. It's recommended to use half doses for tetras and
scaleless bottom fish. No additional water changes are required.
Malachite green is very safe. When I was a retailer with up to 700 tanks,
we'd use it to treat all new arrivals, and sometimes the entire store
systems. We never found it to cause problems, and that was using it on just
about every fish/invert/plant species known to man.
I would avoid the formalin/malachite green formulations, though. They are
supposed to work better for killing ich-- working synergistically
together--but the formalin can be tough on plants (depends on the dosage)
and water quality. Plus, it messes up the accuracy of some ammonia test
kits.
Mike Wickham
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:36:39 -0400
From: "Terry Barber" <terbarb at alltel_net>
Subject: Re: [APD] Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 23, Issue 32
To: "aquatic plants digest" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
Mike.....how the heck are you!!!!!!!!!
Terry :-)
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:40:25 +0200
From: "Laser" <laser at rse_co.za>
Subject: [APD] Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 23, Issue 32
To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> From: "Richard J. Sexton" <richard at aquaria_net>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Red Ramshorns and Nerite
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> Now what would Wilma know about normal?
*Normal* is in the eye of the beholder, quantum physics will teach you this.
>
> They reproduce like crazy almost anywhere for me and
> have for decades.
I have mentioned *exactly* the same as Richard in other forums
(ahem...except for the decades part :) only to have people tell me that I'm
talking bollocks. I have a shrimp tank full of MTS and Red Ramshorns,
literally hundreds of them. This tank also has a much smaller species of
Nerite that breed quite well in this same setup. My bigger planted tank has
N. Natalensis (here in South Africa they're more commonly known as Tiger
snails) and they too have bred successfully albeit in very small numbers. So
not to worry Mr Sexton, I hear you ;)
Kind Regards
Cameron
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