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RE: [APD] De-chloramination



How does the use of Prime affect my existing NO3 levels if I am dosing with
KNO3 in accordance with Tom Barr's Estimative Index?

I am currently using Novaqua. Should I consider switching?

Thanks,
Adam 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: aquatic-plants-bounces+adam=aronson_net at actwin.com 
> [mailto:aquatic-plants-bounces+adam=aronson_net at actwin.com] 
> On Behalf Of S. Hieber
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:00 AM
> To: aquatic plants digest
> Subject: Re: [APD] De-chloramination
> 
> Chlorine is very unstable and very temporary. Chloramines are 
> very stable and rather permanent, providing long lasting 
> protection in your drinking water.
> 
> Problem with chloramines for aquarists is that chemicals that 
> "break apart" the chloramine bond leave you with chlorine 
> (unstable and not a big problem) and the ammonia component. 
> Ugh. If you have chloramines in your water you want to use 
> one of the ater treatments that not only break apart the 
> chloramine bond but that also binds the nitrogen from the chloramine.
> 
> SeaChem Prime breaks up the chloramine and binds thenitrogen 
> in a safe form while still leaving the nitrogen in a form 
> available to the plants. Sort of win-win situation. ;-)
> 
> Scott H.
> 
> 
> 
> --- Nicolas Munro <nmunro at qld_yokogawa.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > I presume there is probably a difference between Chlorine and 
> > Chloromine.
> > 
> > Ive read on a couple of sites that chlorine can be gotten rid of by 
> > either sitting a bucket of water for a while or turning the tap on 
> > really hard so the Chlorine gas just 'evaporates'.
> > 
> > Chloromine is a chemical added to the water to perform the 
> same job as 
> > chlorine. It doesn't respond to sitting water or strong 
> currents which 
> > is why the water companys use it.
> > 
> > So I suggest you phone ya water company to see what they add to the 
> > water supply.
> > 
> > =Nick
> > 
> > Mariano Fernández Bonfante wrote:
> > 
> > > Dear Thomas:
> > >
> > > I was just sharing a method developed when I was
> > breading Discus,
> > > making 10% water changes in a daily basis. The barrel
> > filling was
> > > automated, so my only concern was to drain and refill
> > the tanks as
> > > quickly as possible, without considering the incoming
> > water temp o PH. 
> > > I agree that plants aren?t so picky with water
> > requirement, but I keep
> > > on with it because it is already set.
> > >
> > > By the way, I had some few bad experiences filling a
> > tank directly
> > > from water tap years ago, especially in winter,
> > although this was my
> > > chosen method during 15 years o so. Basically some
> > Discus developed
> > > eye cloudiness or gill problems from time to time. The
> > other point was
> > > that a ¾ hose speed up the process. Moreover, I treated
> > water with a
> > > PH reducer, so it wasn?t possible to add it directly to
> > the tank
> > > without hurting the fishes. For these reasons the
> > auxiliary barrel
> > > appeared.
> > >
> > > When I started with this hobbie the only dechlor
> > available was in
> > > crystal, and needed 48 hs to work. Then the instant
> > dechlor appears
> > > and it was amazing how the time requirement was
> > reduced, it is great
> > > stuff. But today I use no dechlor since in a week it
> > runs out from the
> > > water by itself. But the use or not of dechlor in my
> > opinion it isn?t
> > > an important issue. I consider the key factor is the
> > tank size and the
> > > time elapsed for the water change.
> > >
> > > Thank for your comments.
> > >
> > > Mariano
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: Thomas Narten <narten at cs_duke.edu>
> > >> Reply-To: aquatic plants digest
> > <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> > >> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [APD] De-chloramination Date: Wed, 29 Jun
> > 2005 20:57:47
> > >> -0400
> > >>
> > >> > I have a 100G tank, so a 50% water change means a
> > lot of water. A
> > >> week after
> > >> > the water change I fill a 50G barrel with tap water,
> > with a heater
> > >> inside
> > >> > and an internal filter for water recirculation.
> > After a week the
> > >> water is
> > >> > chlorine free and at the correct temperature. Prior
> > the water
> > >> change I add
> > >> > some soda to adjust PH. I fill the main tank with a
> > hose and a
> > >> power head
> > >> > placed inside the auxiliary barrel.
> > >>
> > >> Seems like a lot of work. If you have that kind of
> > time, go for it.
> > >>
> > >> For some 8 years or so now, I do 50% water changes, by
> > adding de-chlor
> > >> to the tank and then filling direct from the tap (via
> > a hose). Having
> > >> the temp within a few degrees or so (say 5?) is good
> > enough. I just
> > >> don't think healthy fish are that sensitive to that
> > kind of change in
> > >> water temp and/or chemistry. (Do you think water
> > conditions are
> > >> completely constant out in the wild?)
> > >>
> > >> I do this with fry in grow out tanks too, and again,
> > no problem.
> > >>
> > >> And, my tap water is very soft, so I have pH issues
> > sometimes. It
> > >> comes out of my tap near 8, but the pH in my tanks has
> > been at 6 (or
> > >> lower -- test kit doesn't say!) and then done a water
> > change in which
> > >> the resultant pH goes up to 7 (or from 7-8) as a
> > result of a water
> > >> change. Again, I don't think this has caused any
> > actual problem in
> > >> practice. (The fish in question are Rams, btw, which
> > are supposed to
> > >> be more delicate than other fish.)
> > >>
> > >> I've only had one incident doing this, and that was
> > clearly operator
> > >> error. The fish looked stressed almost immediately
> > after the water
> > >> change, so I added more dechlor. But a good number of
> > them died. I
> > >> surely forgot to add the de-chlor or something, which
> > one must watch
> > >> out for when doing many tanks and trying to be fast
> > about it while the
> > >> mind is thinking about other things...
> > >>
> > >> Point is, no need to be overly careful here. Just be
> > sure to add
> > >> dechlor. It's very cheap insurance. (And I only bother
> > with the stuff
> > >> that is for dechlor only and takes 5ml per 20G or so)
> > >>
> > >> Thomas
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