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I will be out of the office Thursday, April 28. Please contact David
Dalley with any urgent issues.

Thanks,
Trina

>>> aquatic-plants 04/28/05 10:04 >>>

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Today's Topics:

   1. Boring insects (PENNY CROWLEY)
   2. Re: Stuff for Sale (John Brekken)
   3. Re: Boring insects (S. Hieber)
   4. Re: Ionizers, cure alls,	magnetic water purifyers and other
      snake oils (Terry Barber)
   5. Re: RE: rocks'n'wood (Richard J. Sexton)
   6. Re: Fleet Enema Dosage (Laser)
   7. Green water in non-co2 tank (drajitathale)
   8. Re: RE: rocks'n'wood (Nick Ternes)
   9. Re: Green water in non-co2 tank (S. Hieber)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:05:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: PENNY CROWLEY <pcrowley at snet_net>
Subject: [APD] Boring insects
To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com


> So  even non-living pieces of the trees repel the
boring insects.

No insects are really boring....you just have to get
to know them.


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:33:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Brekken <jbrekken1 at yahoo_com>
Subject: Re: [APD] Stuff for Sale
To: Rachel Sandage <rachelsor at gmail_com>,	aquatic plants digest
	<aquatic-plants at actwin_com>

Anyone want some cheap stuff in San Diego, I will set
you up.  It all has to go by Friday.  Tanks substrate,
filters. -John 619.379.1848
--- Rachel Sandage <rachelsor at gmail_com> wrote:
> Stuff for sale in Forest Grove, Oregon:
> 
> 10 gallon tank with 2 regular fluorescent
> striplights, Duetto DJ 50
> internal filter, flourite substrate (2"), lid.
> 
> 10 gallon tank with sponge filter, air pump, lid,
> fluorescent light strip.
> 
> Rena Filstar XP2.
> 
> Contact me off list.
> 
> Rachel
> 
> Sorry if this is a repost
> 
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:36:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>
Subject: Re: [APD] Boring insects
To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>

I should have known to *brace* myself for that.

sh
--- PENNY CROWLEY <pcrowley at snet_net> wrote:
> 
> > So  even non-living pieces of the trees repel the
> boring insects.
> 
> No insects are really boring....you just have to get
> to know them.
 




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:24:35 -0400
From: "Terry Barber" <terbarb at alltel_net>
Subject: Re: [APD] Ionizers, cure alls,	magnetic water purifyers and
	other snake oils
To: "aquatic plants digest" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>

I think I remember smoking something in college that would do this same
thing<g>.  We didn't inhale of course......

TerryB
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>
To: "aquatic plants digest" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [APD] Ionizers, cure alls,magnetic water purifyers and
other
snake oils


> Following on the tremendous success of "The Last Straw"
> (literally hundreds of thousands sold everyday at
> supermarkets, convenience stores, and neighborhood bodegas)
> the product that let's you add CO2 to your aquaria at
> virtually no cost for CO2, I'm are about to release a new
> and exciting product.
>
> Coming soon: the magneta-opto-optimizer. It's effect is
> similar to the antialiasing that your computer video card
> performs to enhance the images on your computer dispaly.
> But the magneta-opto-optimizer works with you aquarium by
> realigning the photonic radiation in the air in a special
> proprietary way -- similar to the way a magnet realiagns
> particles into a more coherent pattern. The result is a
> more coherent retinal stimulation. Now you can see fish
> with even sharper images, higher apparent contrast, and
> more distinct coloration.
>
> Once you have a pair of the magneta-opto-optimizers, and a
> suitable optometrist's prescription that is *personally
> tailor* you, you will be seeing your aquaria in a new and
> wonderful way.
>
> Adaptable -- One size fits all. The remarkable infinite
> adjustment properties of the magneta-opto-optimizer mean
> that anyone can fir a pair to their own unique head shape
> and size.
>
> The price will be about $1,400 per pair, lenses not
> included. The deluxe version, which includes a custom
> maintenance kit, comprising a special nonabrasive fabric,
> will be priced at $1,650. Shipping and handling, $250
> extra.
>
> Scott H.
> Still undergoing research is "Coluber lubricant." A product
> sure to end forever all your dry snake problems.
>
> --- Vaughn Hopkins <hoppy1 at surewest_net> wrote:
> > Darn!  Does anyone need a good ionizer?  Cheap?
> >
> > On Sunday, April 24, 2005, at 08:11 PM, Thomas Barr
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > http://www.chem1.com/CQ/ionbunk.html
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:24:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Richard J. Sexton" <richard at aquaria_net>
Subject: Re: [APD] RE: rocks'n'wood
To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>

>No, you didn't mention that you had used those roots for a few years.  
>My experience with cedar is from Missouri, where cedar is real aromatic

>cedar.  Here in California it is just another evergreen tree.  My 
>intuition is sometimes wrong - the Earth isn't really flat.  I 
>reluctantly accept that.

True ceders are found in the mid east, that's there aromatic ceder comes
from.
We have "Red ceder" and "White ceder" or "Arbor vitae" or Thuja
(occidentalis?) which
is what I have always used.


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:24:42 +0200
From: "Laser" <laser at rse_co.za>
Subject: [APD] Re: Fleet Enema Dosage
To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>

Just a note of thanks to Art, Scott and Clint for clearing that up for
me,
thanks guys.

Kind Regards
Cameron James



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:40:04 +0530
From: "drajitathale" <drajitathale at hclinfinet_com>
Subject: [APD] Green water in non-co2 tank
To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>

What measures are recommended to combat green water in a 25 gallon 
nonc02
non-fertilised tank basking
in sunlight in tropics?

The points I could think of were as follows :
1. Water change followed by 3days of complete blackout

2. Adding phosphate.

Will Tom and others elaborate

ajit athale
India.




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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:02:03 -0500
From: Nick Ternes <woodland_gardens at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [APD] RE: rocks'n'wood
To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>

White Cedar is Thuja occidentalis, Red Cedar is Juniperus virginiana. 
Western White Cedar is Thuja plicata.  Aromatic Cedar is Cedrus
deodera.

Nick Ternes
Port Washington, WI
WAKO
AKA

> True ceders are found in the mid east, that's there aromatic ceder
comes from.
> We have "Red ceder" and "White ceder" or "Arbor vitae" or Thuja
> (occidentalis?) which
> is what I have always used.
> 
> --
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:12:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>
Subject: Re: [APD] Green water in non-co2 tank
To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>

I don't know how direct the sunlight is but sunlight can be
many times more light than we would ever put on our aquaria
with electrical means.

Without pretending to be too precise, in the tropics, I
think direct sunlight equates to about 100 watts per sq
foot of energy, depending on angle, time of day, weather,
etc -- much of it heat -- but it's a lot of light. A 55
watt pc over a 2 foot long by 6" wide aquarium
(front-to-back) equates to less 30 watts per sqaure foot of
energy (mostly heat) and than 19 watts per square foot of
light. Most aquaria are probably larger than this and the
lighting level from electric bulbs proportionately less.

If you've got a dosing and maintenance routine that
generally doesn't present green water, that's great, but if
the problem seems to be chronic, well, a little sunlight
goes a long way, especially with no added CO2. So, this
could be a situation where regular use of a UV lamp on the
water line can be useful. It's murder on green water.

Of course, in any event, you want to be sure that nutrient
levels are in good order.

Scott H.
--- drajitathale <drajitathale at hclinfinet_com> wrote:
> What measures are recommended to combat green water in a
> 25 gallon  nonc02
> non-fertilised tank basking
> in sunlight in tropics?
> 
> The points I could think of were as follows :
> 1. Water change followed by 3days of complete blackout
> 
> 2. Adding phosphate.
> 
> Will Tom and others elaborate
> 
> ajit athale
> India.
> 
> 
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