RE: [APD] Re: Red Eye, Take 2

["william ruyle" <inquartata at comcast_net>]

I would like to point out that Tom Barr answers posts to this list and
others without any monetary compensation. I'm sure he and Greg are planning
their vacations to Fiji on all the plunder they're collecting at
Barrreport.com:-) They aren't even breaking even--never mind all the
hours they've spent in its development.

Your "Russel Crowe" signature line I find to be subtractive to both
you and Tom. And yes, we are 2 separate countries, and I assure you
we Americans are extremely aware of that fact, and of the increasing
lack of warmth between our two countries....a most unfortunate
happenstance.

Bill Ruyle

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Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:25 AM
To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
Subject: [APD] Re: Red Eye, Take 2


Another recent exchange between list members:

> Folks judge based on only the photo, I'm not too keen on
> that personally.
> It does not tell you very much.

In the AGA contest, I thought I have heard judges say that
they take into account whether a tank is maintainable for
the long term and whether it looks like it was "just
planted" for the picture but is not a practical or viable
long term aquascape.
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Several of the judges DID make that comment, and it may have affected their
individual decisions, but long term set-up and viability was NOT one of the
"rules".

> But I've seen some in the past that are certainly touched
> up and colors
> added. Some were film, some digital.
> I'm not saying who and that's not the point, but there
> are certainly some.
> Any tank should look better than a photo in person,

The images were all sent to Eric for scanning - I didn't see them until the
Showcase results were announced. Eric is pretty savy and if he thought that
any image was computer enhanced or "doctored", he would have let both the
entrant and me know about it. That didn't happen.

> but a
> photo does not
> show everything either..........I do not like to judge
> any tank without
> seeing in person. and even then I have reservations.
> I'd rather see the tank's success over several weeks,
> years etc.

But, probably not practical though for an international
aquscaping contest. But the broader point applies to what
individuals might hold as personal goals. Some aquascape
for the short term image, then whenthat's done, tear down
and make another. That's what they like to do. Others are
happy with plants and fish thriving, for the long term, and
don't much care about the aquascape end of things.
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Excuse me Tom, but take a pill.

We had endless arguments during the planning stages of the first
Showcase/Contest over the "International" issue (and I blew up several times
at people who failed to acknowledge the fact that the APD and the AGA cater
to an international audience). Never forget that I, as the leader of the
committee which did the planning am a CANADIAN, eh? I love and respect my
American friends and neighbours, but I we ARE two separate countries.

Some suggested that we ought to hold "regional" showcases in major U.S.
cities - that idea was nixed because it did not firt in with my initial
vision of hobbyists from all over the world sharing their aquascapes to one
another in pictures. I couldn't easily travel to India, or Europe to
"inspect" the tanks first hand.

The ADA Contest doesn't go out to "eyeball" entries either, and they have a
much bigger budget than we had to work with.

Loosen up, relax and just enjoy the ride...

James Purchase
Toronto

** Someone who doesn't, and never will, charge $$$ for aquarium advice. **


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