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Re: [APD] Re:CO2 Reactor Questions -- or - Scratching the



The canister method works really good as a co2
reactor.  I'm running 2 DIY bottles on my Magnum
350(no biowheels).  The rate is low enough that the
co2 disolves before it develops any space or water
noise.  The advantage of the 350 is the impeller being
on the bottom.  No worries about cativation or filter
stopping.  I'm running 2 layers of generic floss and
the co2 is forced to disolve before it can be sent out
the system.  If any bubbles were to catch on anything
they would stay until disolved.  It's disolved about
an 1" of regular air in less than 8 hours.

--- Robert H <robertph3 at comcast_net> wrote:
> >>Not much pont to the reactor then. The canister
> and the
> reactor are pretty much the same thing, in a sense,
> a
> chamber where the CO2 and be absorbed into the water
> running through it. But you don't *have* to use the
> air
> connector type fitting. You could drill a hole jsut
> large
> enough that you can squeeze an length of airline
> tubing
> into it, seal it with epoxy airline. You just might
> want to
> seal with epoxy even if you use the fitting. ;-)<<
> 
> I can't say how well a cannister works, because I
> have never done it, but
> the point of a reactor is to hold the gas and the
> water together long enough
> so that the gas stays in contact with the water and
> becomes absorbed. If C02
> bubbles are allowed to escape, they float up to the
> water surface and
> disapate. I have pumped C02 into a powerhead and can
> see many little bubbles
> rising to the surface.
> 
> >>I have a reactor from Tom Barr that works that way
> and it
> cut my CO2 use by about 4-fold compared to some
> other
> devices I had tried. 5 pounds of CO2 can easily last
> more
> than a year.<<
> 
> Scott, you also have at least two Aqua Medic reactor
> 1000s that I know of!
> Whether you use a homemade reactor like Tom's or
> Ghazanfar's, or a brand
> name like Aqua Medic, it basically works the same.
> The gas comes into the
> reactor chamber along with water and is forced thru
> bio type balls or some
> other material where the bubbles are broken up and
> churned around until they
> are absorbed. Any reactor will cut C02 use 4 fold
> compared to a diffusor, an
> airstone or such device. How good a job a cannister
> filter does in
> comparison I have no idea. Could C02 bubbles get
> trapped somewhere in the
> filter and not get absorbed? Like air gets trapped?
> 
> >>I didn't think he meant that, but you're right.
> Surface
> turbulence can knock an awful lot of CO2 out of the
> water.<<
> 
> There is a difference between water movement and
> surface tension or
> splashing. I think it is doubtfull that a water
> current set below the water
> surface would burn off C02. George Booth even claims
> somewhere on his WEB
> site that Bio wheels do not interfere significantly
> with his C02. If you
> were just bubbling your C02 into the water, like
> with Eheims ceramic
> diffusor, then it may have some affect, but using a
> reactor, minimal surface
> movement wouldn't have much of an affect.
> 
> Robert Paul Hudson
> www.aquabotanic.com
> 
> 
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