Hello again, My cmputer is at work. I was describing the sizes of the two plants from memory. In acutallity, the B. aubertii is at best half as tall as my 30 gal. and the A. japonica is only 2-3 inches tall. ray _______________________________________________ Aquatic-Plants mailing list Aquatic-Plants at actwin_com http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/aquatic-plants