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[APD] Rocks
Hi!
I'm new at this...my first post. I have a 55gal tank and would like to set a
fair amount of slate rock (30-50lbs) along the back and one side of the
tank. Will I be running into a dangerous weight issue here.
Keith
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1. Light measurement terms (S. Hieber)
2. Tom Barr (Daphne Freeman)
3. Re: Digital cameras (Giancarlo Podio)
4. RE: Slime products & Gills -- or - Why doesn't mucosa in a
bottlethrottle your fish? (LeDeaux, David)
5. Re: Tom Barr (S. Hieber)
6. RE: Slime products & Gills -- or - Why doesn't mucosa in a
bottlethrottle your fish? (S. Hieber)
7. white sand (Brad VanMeter)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 04:49:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>
Subject: [APD] Light measurement terms
To: Aquatic Plants Digest Messages <Aquatic-Plants at actwin_com>
Here's another page with some decent definitions of light measurement terms:
http://www.ledtronics.com/pages/tech4.htm
Scott H.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:32:58 -0400
From: "Daphne Freeman" <daphne_freeman at charter.net>
Subject: [APD] Tom Barr
To: "Aquatic Plants" <Aquatic-Plants at actwin_com>
Has anyone heard from Tom Barr? He has been noticeably absent from the
list. Tom, are you OK?
Daphne
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:20:29 -0400
From: "Giancarlo Podio" <gp at isaconsulting_com>
Subject: [APD] Re: Digital cameras
To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
Hi Stephan,
For better macro than what the camera can do out of the box, which by the
way is not bad, you just can't use the zoom without the macro rings, you
will need to first buy the lens adapter for the camera, this gives you a
52mm thread for accessories such as lenses and filters. Canon sells it for
around $20 or you can buy it on eBay like I did for about $5 (the A80 uses a
different adapter than the A70 so it may take a few weeks for after market
models to come out). After that you can pretty much screw anything with a
52mm thread in front of the lens. Closeup rings can be found on ebay or just
about anywhere else, they range in price depending on quality, mine are a
$1.50 pickup on eBay, not the best quality but they work well for now. There
are also specific macro lenses. Here's just a quick pick from eBay, I'm sure
you'll find many more if you do a search:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2957204839&category=15218
(this is the cheap brand I have)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2957059868&category=15218
(better quality)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2957416148&category=30066
(cheap wide + macro)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2957520252&category=30066
(the A80 adapter)
You're not going to find much if you search for A80 right now because it's
so new, search for A70 accessories, they are the same except for the lens
adapter.
Regarding the remote flash, I use it for other types of photography, have
yet to use it in the fish tank. The best shots I get are without flash, just
the tank lights and correctly set white balance. When shooting the fish, it
just takes a lot of shots to catch a good one when the fish isn't moving.
This shot was taken without a flash:
http://67.89.4.174/aqua/photos/09_2003/img_0158s.jpg
The ones where I did use the flash are obvious because of the dark
background, but I just used the camera's flash at an angle where the
reflection didn't cause a problem:
http://67.89.4.174/aqua/photos/10_2003/img_0516s.jpg
http://67.89.4.174/aqua/photos/10_2003/img_0524s.jpg
I was having a hard time getting a cardinal to sit still so I had to use the
flash. All the other photos are without any flash at all, just a longer
exposure, that's why the fish look a little blury in most. I also turn the
fitler off to stop the plants from moving with the current, along with a
tripod and using the time delay shutter it's difficult not to get a good
shot.
You'll love the camera, just take 100s of shots until you have figured out
what works best for you.
Hope that helps
Giancarlo Podio
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Subject: [APD] Re: Digital cameras
I would like to thank everyone who wrote to me on and off list about the
subject. Unfortunately prices of cameras here are double those you have in
the US, and this is my first digital in any case. So after having seen
Giancarlo Podio's photos: http://67.89.4.174/aqua/photos/10_2003/
I have ordered the Canon A80, which should be here in a couple of weeks
time.
Just another couple of questions for Giancarlo:
1) "I've always enjoyed macro and find that no matter how good a camera is
at macro, the rings are so cheap that it's not a big factor for me when
deciding on a camera to buy."
What rings are you refering to? Are they Canon accessories or something
else? Canon accessories are not so cheap.
2)"Remote flash requires removing the sensor from the slave flash and taping
it to over the flash on the camera, ugly but works well"
Did you need to do this for the photos in the website?
regards
Stephan
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:37:30 -0500
From: "LeDeaux, David" <David_LeDeaux at Tripointglobal.com>
Subject: RE: [APD] Slime products & Gills -- or - Why doesn't mucosa
in a bottlethrottle your fish?
To: "'aquatic plants digest'" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
I'm at work and was trying to do some research on the subject, but just
don't have too much time to get into the nitty gritty details of it all.
I haven't had much experience with slime coat products, but I am assuming
that they work much in the same way that aquarium salt works. From my brief
research, the production of the slime coat has something to do with a fishes
osmoregulation. There are electrolytes that must be present in the water
for normal osmoregulation to function. Adding salts (and I'm assuming slime
products) merely increases the electrolytes present in the water, enhancing
the osmoregulation of the fish thereby stimulating a healthier/thicker slime
coat.
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From: S. Hieber [mailto:shieber at yahoo_com]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 12:12 PM
To: rvengstrom at shaw_ca; aquatic plants digest
Subject: RE: [APD] Slime products & Gills -- or - Why doesn't mucosa in a
bottlethrottle your fish?
That sounds worse to me than adding a coating. Some have
said that the slime coats jsut irritate the skin to
increase slime production. If so, is that a good thing to
do during a period of stress?
Scott H.
--- Rick Engstrom <rvengstromnospam at shaw_ca> wrote:
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aquatic-plants-bounces at actwin_com
> [mailto:aquatic-plants-bounces at actwin_com]On Behalf Of S. Hieber
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:43 AM
> To: Aquatic Plants Digest Messages
> Subject: [APD] Slime products & Gills -- or - Why doesn't
> mucosa in a
> bottlethrottle your fish?
>
>
> I am curious about slime coat products like SeaChem's StressGuard. If
> these products form "a protective coating," why doesn't this mess with
> their gills -- reducing one stress while addign another?
>
> any thoughts, any answers??
>
> Scott H.
>
>
> I believe, much like the use of salt, that they stimulate
> the slime coat not
> add another protective layer to the already existing
> slime coating. Some use
> those products after netting fish in which case some of
> the slime coat may
> have been damaged.
>
> Rick
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:51:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>
Subject: Re: [APD] Tom Barr
To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
First we wondered where George Booth had gotten to. Now
folks are wondering about Tom B.
You can see them both in person in Dallas less than a month
from now, November 14-16 :-)
Scott H.
--- Daphne Freeman <daphne_freeman at charter.net> wrote:
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> Has anyone heard from Tom Barr? He has been noticeably
> absent from the
> list. Tom, are you OK?
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:53:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>
Subject: RE: [APD] Slime products & Gills -- or - Why doesn't mucosa
in a bottlethrottle your fish?
To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
Why do yo assume that?
Scott H.
--- "LeDeaux, David" <David_LeDeaux at tripointglobal.com>
wrote:
> . . .I haven't had much experience with slime coat
> products,
> but I am assuming
> that they work much in the same way that aquarium salt
> works. . .
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:57:40 -0500
From: "Brad VanMeter" <mrclean at dailypost_com>
Subject: [APD] white sand
To: <Aquatic-Plants at actwin_com>
I have a 125 gallon planted discus tank with white sand approximately 2
inches deep on bottom. I have never added supplements to the sand. I
occasionally dose with formula K or a Kent plant product when i remember,
otherwise really not a whole lot of maintenance. I have some plant roots
starting to show, so I'm planning to add another inch of sand to parts of
the tank. Am i going to run into any problems when I start to cover whats
been exposed for a couple years? My plants seem to do fine, I just added a
bunch of new plants I got from Peter at Arizona Aquatic Gardens, also got
some great advice from him, but forgot to ask him about the sand. My LFS had
to special order the fine sand, it looks so nice I cant figure out why
people dont use it, is there something I'm missing? If I open the door and
look at the bottom side of the tank, you can see a web of roots that look
extremely healthy.
By the way, I also added about 60 shrimp, some SAE's, about 20 olive snails
and over 100 pencilfish that I got from AAG, and not a single casualty, just
a whole lot less green hair algea on my driftwood! The advice and service I
got from AAG was excellent, I'd highly recommend them to anybody looking for
fish or plants!
Brad V
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