[APD] CO2, CaCo3 and nuetral buffers

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>    1. Re: Re: How to disinfect an acrylic aquarium (S. Hieber)
>    2. Re: acrylic aquarium (john wheeler)
>    3. Re: Red plants not red enough (Stephan Mifsud)
>    4. Re: Re How to disinfect an acrylic and..any way to fix a
>       scratch (Bill Wichers)
>    5. Re: Red plants not red enough (Roger Miller)
>    6. RE: Re: Trimming dead/old leaves - Was: Red plants not red
>       enough (LeDeaux, David)
>    7. Tiger Val in Canada (Jason Miller)

>    8. A place with all variables listed?/ O2 test kits any good? 
>       (Billionzz at aol_com)
>    9. Broken stripe Tetra -- or, what kind of fool am I? (Ann Viverette)
>   10. Re: Red plants not red enough (Paul Krombholz)
>   11. Killer yeast? (Seweryn Bialasiewicz)
>   12. Re: Killer yeast? (Chuck Gadd)
>   13. Re: RE: re [APD] Re: re: Desperate Plea (Andrew McLeod)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:12:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Re: How to disinfect an acrylic aquarium
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
> Not recommended for aquarium use.  Hard to wash of all the
> traces -- contains petroleum distillates as thinners and
> solvents.
> 
> Generally good for what it was originally designed for,
> Water Displacement in mechanisms that you don't want to
> take apart.
> 
> Scot H.
> --- GramFran413 at aol_com wrote:
> > In a message dated 9/26/03 5:52:12 AM Pacific Daylight

> > Time, 
> > aquatic-plants-request at actwin_com writes:
> > 
> > > Also on the outside there is some left over paper and
> > glue from a sticker.  
> > > I usually use nail polish remover for this,  but I
> > don't think it should be 
> > > used on acrylic.  
> > 
> > I'm not certain as to how save this is for aquarium use,
> > but a good spray of 
> > WD-40 will usually remove that sticky "stuff".  May take
> > more than one 
> > application.
> > 
> > Growing old is inevitable; growing UP is optional.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:00:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: john wheeler <jcwheel76 at yahoo_com>
> Subject: [APD] Re: acrylic aquarium
> To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
> 
> Hey gang,
> 

> RE: Joanne Damon's slightly used acrylic aquarium, how
> big is the tank in question? Glass tanks are cheap--
> the cheapest part of the whole equation, really-- and
> I wonder if all this trouble is really worth it?
> Acrylic is *very* nice, but perilous when you consider
> that we play with substrates, algae scrapers,
> tweezers, etc. It just scratches too easily.
> 
> Unless the tank is large or unusually shaped, I would
> just scrap it and buy a new glass tank. Cheap and
> hassle free. 
> 
> If you've ever bothered to try and buff a scratch out
> of acrylic, you'll prolly see my logic. It's tedious
> work that ends up costing more money.  
> 
> Anyway....just my $.02 *plunk, plunk*
> 
> John Wheeler 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:42:37 +0200
> From: "Stephan Mifsud" <valerandi at nextgen_net.mt>
> Subject: [APD] Re: Red plants not red enough

> To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
> > From: Shireen Gonzaga <whimbrel at comcast_net>
> > I have a Barclaya longifolia that has pretty dull-looking
> > red leaves. Ditto for my Ludwigia repens. Is there a way
> > to kick it up a notch in color?
> 
> There was a lively discussion this week, re this issue on
> the AGA maillist :
> http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/Current/maillist.html
> 
> Your best chances for brighter red plants is to increase the
> blue/uv spectrum of your light. You might help Phil Edwards
> in data gathering for his experiment.
> 
> regards
> Stephan
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:23:39 -0400
> From: Bill Wichers <billw at waveform_net>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Re How to disinfect an acrylic and..any way to fix
> 	a scratch
> To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
> 
> 
> >You can polish out scratches in acrylic, espeically if they
> >are not too deep.  You need to go through progressively

> >finer abrasives. I think you can find kits for this form
> >some of the on-line fish stores and from some aquarium
> >makers -- here's one:
> >
> ><http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=6&pCatId=3883>ht
> tp://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=6&pCatId=3883
> >[snip]
> >Scott H.
> 
> If you have a lot of scratches to work on or just have frequent scratch 
> problems, it's probably going to be lots cheaper to get the polishing 
> compound in "raw" form. It can be bought as "Novus Plastic Polish" from 
> http://www.usplastics.com. About $4-7 (depending on coarseness -- there are 
> three grades) for an 8 ounce spray bottle. The stuff is fairly easy to use, 
> I've used it myself on some polycarbonate sheets, but it will work just as 
> well and is rated for use with acrylics.
> 
>          -Bill
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:40:58 -0700
> From: "Roger Miller" <roger at spinn_net>
> Subject: [APD] Re: Red plants not red enough
> To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
> 
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:00:32 -0400, aquatic-plants-request wrote
> 
> > Hi ...
> > 
> > I have a Barclaya longifolia that has pretty dull-looking
> > red leaves. Ditto for my Ludwigia repens.
> 
> As far as the Barclaya is concerned, there may be some genetic variation in
> redness.  There are a number of other variations, as well.  The red color on
> young leaves is intense and it gets dull as leaves mature.  The color on an
> old leaf is pretty bland.  The red color is stronger under bright light then
> it is under dim light, and finally, plants seem to produce leaves with less
> red color when the plant matures and approaches a dormant period.
> 
> If the plant overall is getting dull-looking then it could be that the plant
> has a lot of old leaves on it so the brighter colors of new leaves aren't as
> apparent.  It could be that growth is slowing down and there just aren't very

> many new leaves.  Another possiblity is that the tank lights have dimmed or
> that the plant is being shaded.  Shading could also be self-shading, as old
> leaves block the light from new leaves.  It could also be that the plant is
> getting ready for a dormant period.
> 
> I trim old leaves off my Barclaya to prevent some of the problems mentioned
> above.  Trimming out old leaves means you see more of the colorful new leaves.
>  It also means that the new leaves aren't "reaching" for light, so their
> petioles don't extend.  If you don't trim the old leaves the petioles on an
> overgrown plant can extend to at least 14" long.
> 
> If the plant is going dormant then you might be able to kick it back into
> action by uprooting the tuber, trimming the roots and replanting.  A little
> substrate fertilizer after that treatment won't hurt, either.
> 
> The color of ludwidgia gets brighter when nitrate concentrations are low and
> the plant produces less chlorophyll.  It is also brighter under brighter

> light.  You might be able to get more color out of the ludwidgia by moving it
> to a less shaded spot.
> 
> 
> Roger Miller
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:50:55 -0500
> From: "LeDeaux, David" <David_LeDeaux at Tripointglobal.com>
> Subject: RE: [APD] Re: Trimming dead/old leaves - Was: Red plants not
> 	red 	enough
> To: "'aquatic plants digest'" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
> Is it reasonable to assume that trimming leaves off encourage new growth
> also?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Miller [mailto:roger at spinn_net] 
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:41 PM
> To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
> Subject: [APD] Re: Red plants not red enough
> 
> 
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:00:32 -0400, aquatic-plants-request wrote
> 
> I trim old leaves off my Barclaya to prevent some of the problems mentioned
> above.  Trimming out old leaves means you see more of the colorful new
> leaves.  It also means that the new leaves aren't "reaching" for light, so

> their petioles don't extend.  If you don't trim the old leaves the petioles
> on an overgrown plant can extend to at least 14" long.
> 
> 
> Roger Miller
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:00:28 -0600
> From: "Jason Miller" <jvision at telus_net>
> Subject: [APD] Tiger Val in Canada
> To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
>   I'm wanting to have a nice wall of Tiger Val across the back of my tank, but 
> have not been able to find some locally.  I'm wondering if there is anyone in 
> Canada who could part w. 5 or 6 'adult' plants.  I am quite happy to pay for 
> them.
>   I live in Edmonton, AB - you can contact me off list for my address.
> 
> Thanks a bunch.
> 
> Jason Miller
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:11:56 EDT
> From: Billionzz at aol_com
> Subject: [APD] A place with all variables listed?/ O2 test kits any
> 	good? 
> To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
> 
> Hi,
> 
>  http://www.aquatic-plants.org/fert/est_index/est_index1.html   
> 
> This is an article By Tom Barr which list the target values for plant 
> nutrients.
> 
> Bill
> 
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> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:51:10 -0500
> From: "Ann Viverette" <annv777 at houston_rr.com>
> Subject: [APD] Broken stripe Tetra -- or, what kind of fool am I?
> To: <Aquatic-Plants at actwin_com>
> 
> I was at this auction, you see, and I got these fish, even though I don't
> know a thing about them -- foolish, right? I know their proper name,
> hemigrammus ulreyi, but that's about all I've found online.
> 
> They are in a bare bottom Q tank, 6 of them, with a bit of java moss, a fake
> plant, and some CO2 to lower the pH from 8.2 tap water levels. A breif

> outbreak of ich upon arrival, but treated in the Q tank, passed rapidly, no
> problems. So far, they seem to be very, very hungry, that is about the
> extent of their character so far after one week. Generally brave, quick to
> come to the glass. Voracious when feeding. And they act like tetras, picking
> on each other a bit.
> 
> I have two plant tanks that I could place them in and if anyone has any
> experience with these guys, maybe you could help me choose. One tank, 59
> gallons, 45"x16'x19", will have 25 cardinals, 6 serpae and 5 kuhlie loaches.
> The other, 29 gallon, has 5 zebra danios and 12 tiny ember tetras, and will
> probably have the 6 skunk cories if I don't try to breed them.
> 
> The serapes were rough on the cory when it was in that tank. If these Broken
> Stripe tetras are going to act like them, I don't want them with the ember
> tetras or the cories. If they act like the piggy rosy barb, the cores would
> starve, the embers too probably. If they are going to be mean like the

> serpaes, well it might serve the serpaes right to have a bigger fish around,
> but the cardinals and kuhlies might suffer.
> 
> I'm finding out how hard it is to get a fish out of a planted tank, so I
> want to get this right if possible.
> 
> 
> Advice, anyone?
> 
> 
> Ann Viverette
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 23:22:36 -0500
> From: Paul Krombholz <krombhol at teclink_net>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Red plants not red enough
> To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
> 
>    
>      * From: Shireen Gonzaga <whimbrel at comcast_net>
>     
> 
> >
> >I have a Barclaya longifolia that has pretty dull-looking
> >red leaves. Ditto for my Ludwigia repens. Is there a way
> >to kick it up a notch in color? It's a CO2 tank dosed with
> >PO4, K, and TMG twice a week. My substrate is plain gravel.
> >Would it help to put some laterite or Flourish tabs under
> >the roots of the red plants? What about adding chelated iron
> >to the water?
> 
> Iron might help.  Also try brighter light. Make sure the red plants 

> have plenty of room.   Red plants turn green pretty fast if they are 
> being shaded out by other plants.
> 
> 
> >
> >BTW, I was browsing through one of Amano's books last night.
> >One of his amazing compositions featured a lovely arrangement
> >of Anubias nana. And to my amazement, there was lots of spot
> >algae on the leaves. I hope this is a comfort to others like
> >me who have algae-covered Anubias leaves -- even the master
> >aquatic plant artist himself has it.  :-)
> 
> Check the pattern of the spot algae.  Each spot may have been placed 
> after much contemplation  :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Paul Krombholz in sunny central Mississippi
> 
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> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:42:51 +0000
> From: "Seweryn Bialasiewicz" <s_bialasiewicz at hotmail_com>
> Subject: [APD] Killer yeast?
> To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
> 
> 
> I was talking to my LFS today about my unfortunate spate of fish deaths, and 
> the guy suggested that a possible cause of the deaths was of yeast getting 

> into the tank via my DIY CO2 reactor bottle, then being eaten (and growing 
> inside the stomach??). Any comments on how probable this scenario is? (btw, 
> temp, pH, Nh4, NO2 are all normal)
> 
> - Seweryn
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 02:38:21 -0600
> From: Chuck Gadd <cgadd at cfxc_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Killer yeast?
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
> Seweryn Bialasiewicz wrote:
> > 
> > I was talking to my LFS today about my unfortunate spate of fish deaths, 
> > and the guy suggested that a possible cause of the deaths was of yeast 
> > getting into the tank via my DIY CO2 reactor bottle, then being eaten 
> 
> very unlikely.  Several people have had BIG yeast accidents,
> where a large amount of the contents of the yeast bottle got

> pulled back into the tank.  They got extremely cloudy water,
> and lots of "stuff" in the water.   In most cases, a couple
> water changes, and the cloudyness goes away in a day or so,
> and no fish loss.  I'm sure that if the yeast were deadly,
> anyone that had even a minor yeast accident would have big
> fish loss.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:42:14 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Andrew McLeod <thefish at theabyssalplain_freeserve.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: RE: re [APD] Re: re: Desperate Plea
> To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
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