Elie said: i had expected something along the lines of your garden (aquarium) variety balansae. as long as its long and green, has that nice battered metal texture and isn't huge and tough-stemmed. that's all i ask :) I have quite a bit of C balansae in two tanks. Would you happen to be in Canada? Later James --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/html ---