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Re: Tropica illegal import?



>I didn't know anyone had been illegally importing Tropica.  Though I suppose
>they wouldn't be publicising it everywhere.  I also didn't know that Tropica
>plants had been banned after 12 years of importation.  Thought they simply had
>never been approved.  Anyone have any details on this?  Forward them to me in
>email if it's something that's common knowledge or has already been discussed 
in
>the list.
As I posted the (as it turns out)  misinformation, what Claus Christensen 
said in 1996:
>>After some years of success for Tropica exporting to US, (in stone-wool),
>>exporters from Holland tried to do the same. Their plants were not able to
>>pass the strong import control. There were problems with pests in the
>>plants. US Department of Agriculture decided a total ban on potted aquarium
>>plants! It is about 12 years ago!
On rereading I now see the reference was "for some years" Sorry for any 
confusion I was quoting from memory...
To clarify, I have posted below the original message.

>I do suppose that one easy source for illegal imports would be to get them 
sent
>down from here in Canada.
You can do this legally, all you have to do is to send it 'bare root' and 
have it inspected by US Customs, we do this all the time with alpine 
plants. Makes you think...

> Bruno

I found this in the archives at: 
http://www.actwin.com/fish/aquatic-plants/month.200009/msg00499.html
The following is the original post:
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>To: Aquatic-Plants at actwin_com
>From: tropica at tropica_dk (Tropica Aquarium Plants)
>Subject: Re: Aquatic Plants on the WWW - Tropica Aquarium Plants - Denmark
>Cc: krandall at world_std.com
>Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:02:19 +0200
(NB: this is an old thread from 1996 -WB)

>The last days there have been written about import of Tropica Aquarium Plants:

>David Whittaker write (Tue, 2 Jul 1996 02:53  Re: Aquatic Plants on the WWW):
> We could ask Windelov I guess.

>You can! Holger Windeloev is the owner of Tropica Aquarium Plants in
>Denmark. To day we talked about this story!
>I am Claus Christensen, Vice-Manager, Tropica Aquarium Plant, Denmark.
>I have worked for Tropica 16 years, also in the period where Tropica
>exported larger quantity of aquarium plants to US.

>Some information about it:

> Actually the person to thank is a Dutchman who once worked for Tropica
> and then set out on his own to import into the U.S.

>Sorry to inform you: No Dutchman worked for Tropica!

> My source (which isn't Tropica) has him denouncing the quality/health of
> Tropica's plants which resulted in the product of both companies being
> banned by the Department.

>The ban on aquatic plants in stone-wool has connection to some export of
>water-plants from Holland.
>After some years of success for Tropica exporting to US, (in stone-wool),
>exporters from Holland tried to do the same. Their plants were not able to
>pass the strong import control. There were problems with pests in the
>plants. US Department of Agriculture decided a total ban on potted aquarium
>plants! It is about 12 years ago!

> They may or may not have been using the fiberglass at the time.
> That may also be the origin of the use of the sterile fiberglass potting
> technique.

>We use stone-wool, not fibreglass! Stone-wool was also used at this time!

> It's a shame really. (That Tropica can't export to US).
> I'd be interested to know when this USDA regulation
> came into force and if it has always been enforced so stringently.


>Your right, and Tropica are working on making it possible to export to US 
again!
>We hope that something has changed!
>More information about the "Ban" can read my old reply to this list (Re:
>Importing Aquarium Plants - Wed, 21 Jun 1995):
>http://www.actwin.com/cgi-bin/mfs/05/fish/aquatic-plants/month.9506/msg00222
.html

 >My source was hoping to wholesale for Tropica here in Canada then. 
>Today it is possible to import Tropica's plants to Canada!
>"Big All"'s shops in Toronto have them! You can find other importers in
>Canada on Tropica's Web page!
>http://www.tropica.dk    and    http://www.tropica.dk/verden.htm

>Horizon Growers sells Tropica Aquarium Plants ......
>In North-America it is generally believed that Horizon Growers, California
>sells Tropica Aquarium Plants from Denmark. This is not correct!
>There is a connection between Horizon Growers and Tropica Aquarium Plants.
>They purchased some plant-material from Tropica and visited our nursery to
>study and learn about the production of aquarium plants.
>Today Tropica Aquarium Plants has no direct connection to Horizon Growers
>nor influence on the range and the quality of the aquarium plants they sell.
>Tropica all original plants in a special plastic pot with a Tropica logo
>with a small plastic label. (http://www.tropica.dk/plants.htm). 

>Claus Christensen

William Beckerman
Cornelius, NC