>Subject: Mark Weiss LW > >I have been using this product for 2 months or so and see no appreciable >gain, either with or w/o the DIY CO2 I use.:{ I got a few YEARS on folks here using this stuff. It does not do anything for a well run planted tank. Snake oil. I had a gallon of the stuff and used it and used it. You do not need it. The coral vital is another story....... Regards, Tom Barr