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RE: NFC: hunting pen raised pheasants

This is an excellent point.  A vast majority of wild hatched animals NEVER
make it to adult breeding status.  Cases in point: gambirds, sea turtles,
coral larvae and yes...gasp...just about every species of fish I can think
of.  I think in most species the average survival rate is somewhat lesss
than 3%.

Food for thought folks...

On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Hemsath, Gay wrote:

> Hello All
> My 2 cents
> Has any one considered that maybe the "farm / pen raised" animals that
> have such low survival rates after being released into the "wild"
> parallels the survival rates of the wild hatch to adult survival rate.
> Pen / farm raised animals can be considered pampered compared to wild
> raised animals.  In the pen we want everything to live.  The rules for
> survival of the fittest parameters in the pen / farm are therefore
> totally different versus the rules for survival of the fittest
> parameters in the wide open wild conditions.
> Just a thought
> Gay
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From:	Scott Doe [SMTP:scottdoe at hotmail_com]
> 	Sent:	Saturday, November 07, 1998 11:57 AM
> 	To:	nfc at actwin_com
> 	Subject:	Re: NFC: hunting pen raised pheasants
> 	Sadly the same is true for most rehab animals according to Dr.
> John Whitaker. He told me once that less than a third of the animals
> that people release into the wild survive. Still a third is better than
> none in the case of rehab animals, but in other cases like domesticated
> pheasants we risk ruining native populations. An animal can harbor
> deadly pathogens and not be visibly ill. It would seem that it is
> advisable to only release animals into the wild under extremely
> controled circumstances. For instance avoid treating the animals with
> antibiotics, insure they return to their original population, and
> thoroughly examine each animal prior to release. In this case the only
> danger would be that the first generation (the released animals)might
> not have the skills to survive. Susequent generations would inherit
> genes from their native "pool", and introduced disease would be at a
> minimum.
> 		>From:	CEFCHURCH at aol_com <mailto:CEFCHURCH at aol_com> 
> 		>Date:	Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:26:18 EST
> 		>To:	nfc at actwin_com <mailto:nfc at actwin_com> 
> 		>Subject:	NFC: hunting pen raised pheasants
> 		>Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com <mailto:nfc at actwin_com> 
> 		>
> 		>Apologies is advance for non-hunters.
> 		>
> 		>Indiana has release hunts for pen raised pheasants.  I
> went with an old boss >of mine to one of these hunts along with his very
> good hunting dog Katy.  The >birds would rarely run or fly and Katy
> would often "retrieve them" before a >shot was fired.  Being an avid
> pheasant hunter, Katy's owner described her >thoughts as being, "Boy,
> are these stupid birds."
> 		>
> 		>According to the DNR, those birds not harvested by
> hunters or dogs only  rarely >survive more than a few weeks.
> 		>
> 		>Chuck Church
> 		>Indianapolis, Indiana USA
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