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Re: Plants for a shiner tank

Hi all,
	Thanks for all your input regarding the plants. After considering
all suggestions and some research, I have decided to get the following
1: Egeria densa (Anacharis) for the ends
2: Sagittaria Sp for background 
3: (dwarf) Sagittaria subulata for foreground
4: Hornwort for fry to hide in. 
5: A piece of driftwood (its Mopani wood from the LFS)
6: (I haven't decided yet) Java Fern to grow on the driftwood.

	Apart from the Java Fern, the rest of the tank should be pretty
much a natural North American biotype. I have seeded the gravel with some
blackworms and mite-like critters from the community tank. I might add
more fish or inverts in six months or so. I would have loved to add a
sword plant but they would not fit the NA biotype (know any North
American Swords?)

	I decided against Cabomba, Bacopa and Ludwigia sp since they are
all bright-light plants. The substrate will be Seachem Flourite mixed with
natural gravel and the filter will be a Whisper power filter rated at 200
GPH (overfiltering a bit). I might add a sponge filter and air stone if it
seems like its needed. I don't know what kind of light, yet.  But probably
a plain old shoplight with GE daylight bulbs. 


On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Josh Wiegert wrote:

> There is something to this:
> Begginer's plants are usually bunch plants that grow rapidly and can be
> harvested easily under the RIGHT CONDITIONS.  That is a key phraze.
> They're readily harvestable, because you can usually just clip them in two
> and have two plants.  Think Elodea (Anacharis.)  They usually like bright
> light, and often cool water (which is ideal for a native tank...).  Many
> of these plants are actually natives to the americas.  Again, think Eldoa.
> Cabasmba is found locally here.  Hornwort grows all over.  This makes them
> ready and easy to gather... as well as cheap.  This is why they're
> begginners plants: not because they're so easy to grow. 
> For great begginers plants, I think Anubias, Java Fern, Brazil Sword,
> "Mystery BUlbs (usually wind up being Arrowhead or Lily Pads) and so forth
> make great aditions.   These plants also have another great advantage over
> the bunch plants:  They're larger leaved and won't be eaten, but still can
> provide quite a bit of shelter for fry.  Brazil Sword is a good example,
> as its long roots and numerous stalks provide plenty of hiding places.
> Unfortunately, these plants generally run about $5 each, as compared to a
> $.99 bunch of anacharis.  
> ><>
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> On Mon, 10 Aug 1998, D. Martin Moore wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > Martin, 
> > >   If it makes you feel any better, I can't grow val worth a damn either.
> > > :)  I manage to grow all the "impossible" ones and kill off all the easy
> > > ones.   My Java Moss dies off, while the Fern flourishes alongside the
> > > Lace Plants... etc. etc.
> > 
> > That's what I don't get.  I can also grow MLLP's, plus C. balansae, 
> > etc., but the "beginner's" plants always die :-(
> > 
> > 
> > Prost,
> > 
> > Martin
> > 
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> > 

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