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Re: Now Never returned to the wild !!!!




  AMEN, brother Robert, AMEN!   :)

Luke




On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, robert a rice wrote:

> 
> >
> >> While I appluade folks getting excited about things I think for now 
> >we
> >> should limit the scope of things to aquarium species.
> >
> >Then you'd be a bunch of fools.  :-)
> 
> 
> Why do you call us fools? Is it  because we are takeing a simople logical
> manner in things and not rushing in cheesing everyone off by calling them
> names like fools :) where there is little disagreement it is easy to move
> quickly..........In Aquarium species there is little disaggreement so we
> have moved forward quickly.
> 
> 
> >> but befor we
> >> go  shooting at each other about this issue we should take a step 
> >back
> >> and concentrate on the obvious problem of introduced aquarium
> >> species.......
> >
> >It's the same basic problem.  As I see it there are four levels in 
> >issue
> >here.
> >
> >1/ Introduction of exotic fish (those from another continent).
> >2/ Translocation/Introduction of "native" fish (those from North 
> >America).
> >3/ Translocation of fish within their native range (ie individual 
> >drainage
> >basins).
> >4/ Rerelease of fish taken from the wild back to their place of 
> >capture.
> >
> >I don't think anyone is arguing about the first three.  The forth one 
> >is
> >certainly more anal, however, I think if you ask a bunch of fisheries
> >professionals they would suggest #4 is also important to advocate 
> >against.  
> >
> >> We risk becoming so myopic on this issue that no party would be 
> >allowed
> >> to move anyfish anywhere and in effect you would end aquarium 
> >rearing,
> >> reintroductions, stocking and we would lose most of the interests of
> >> naturalist, fishermen and aquarists.....
> > 
> >Now you are getting a little extreme here.  :-)  Ideally fish 
> >rereleased back
> >into the wild should have a vet examination to ensure we are not 
> >releasing
> >more than we think.  Most hatcheries do undertake this these days from 
> >what I
> >understand.  
> >
> >Tootles
> >Peter Unmack
> >
> >
>  I do work on a weekly basis with hatcheries and there are no vets
> inolved in the proccess. Copper sulfate perhaps :) I think your harsh
> tone on this list is in effect throwing out the baby with bathwater. Our
> program for exotic removal is a good program not a complete one nor a
> perfect one but it is a good one. We will continue to develop it to
> further address the issues. The 6 PHD's  I ran it by thought it was a
> good idea and the 3 fisheries folks did too  As did the 2 state senators.
> So lighten up it's a good program that is just getting started :)  and we
> are far from fools. We are a bunch of folks who give a damn and would be
> happy to work together with like minded people.
> 
> RR
> 
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