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Re: Fox snakes




On Fri, 29 Aug 1997 00:25:51 -0700 "Norm Edelen & Lisa Hayashi"
<normane at hevanet_com> writes:
>
>Hello Robert,
>
>I hope you are not just releasing these snakes and lizards into your 
>yard. 
>That strikes me as enviromentally unsound (introducing exotics).
>
>Norm

The Florida Pines snake occurs within my county I have a small rodent
problem and they are excellent at taking care of this job..........That
is the species I will deal with.....


>----------
>From: robert a rice <robertrice at juno_com>
>To: Acbauer at aol_com; nanfa at aquaria_net; nanf at actwin_com;
>Bill.White at 110_sunshine.com
>Cc: robertrice at juno_com
>Subject: Re: Fox snakes 
>Date: Thursday, August 28, 1997 8:18 AM
>
>
>On Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:44:59 -0400 (EDT) Acbauer at aol_com writes:
>>About what happened to NY: I joined!  Everyone saw that I had signed 
>>up for
>>NANFA, and being the (in)famous guy I am, they all joined up!  
>>Kidding. :-)
>
>WOW I only thought it was cause they heard i was that NANFA guy :)
>
>
>>About the fox snakes, I do know a bit about them.  Scientifically 
>>known as
>>Elaphe vulpina.  In the same genus/family as the rat snakes.  Range 
>>includes
>>the northern Midwestern states for Western Variety.  eastern Fox has 
>a 
>>much
>>more limited range, along the great lakes and Michigan.  Known as 
>>timber
>>snake, pine snake, spotted adder, and many other names.  Often 
>>mistaken for
>>venomous snakes, as its red head confuses it with the copperhead and 
>>the
>>habit of vibrating the tail confuses it with rattle snakes. Size 
>>ranges
>>from36-54 inches.  Record length of 66.  Found pretty much 
>>anywhere.Diet
>>consists mainly of mice, rat, and small birds.  Younger individuals 
>>will eat
>>frogs )especially tree frogs), lizards, and the like.  
>
>Thanks for the input i have a paCK rat problem (20 plus in the last 
>month
>via snap trap) the ones I traded for should help....
>
>
>
>>As to horned toads, I can't phathom why anyone would want to purchase 
>
>>such a difficult to keep alive species.  There was a guy up around 
>here
>a 
>>while back (2-3 years) selling them for $45 a pair, I believe. . . .
>These were
>>domesticly breed.  I'll look into it if your interested....
>
>
>Does anyone know if they eat fire ants ? There is a colony of them 
>near
>here that is a transplant and has done well for years and years so the
>locals say...
>
>>J. L. Wiegert
>>
>

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