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Re: Fox snakes

On Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:44:59 -0400 (EDT) Acbauer at aol_com writes:
>About what happened to NY: I joined!  Everyone saw that I had signed 
>up for
>NANFA, and being the (in)famous guy I am, they all joined up!  
>Kidding. :-)

WOW I only thought it was cause they heard i was that NANFA guy :)

>About the fox snakes, I do know a bit about them.  Scientifically 
>known as
>Elaphe vulpina.  In the same genus/family as the rat snakes.  Range 
>the northern Midwestern states for Western Variety.  eastern Fox has a 
>more limited range, along the great lakes and Michigan.  Known as 
>snake, pine snake, spotted adder, and many other names.  Often 
>mistaken for
>venomous snakes, as its red head confuses it with the copperhead and 
>habit of vibrating the tail confuses it with rattle snakes. Size 
>from36-54 inches.  Record length of 66.  Found pretty much 
>consists mainly of mice, rat, and small birds.  Younger individuals 
>will eat
>frogs )especially tree frogs), lizards, and the like.  

Thanks for the input i have a paCK rat problem (20 plus in the last month
via snap trap) the ones I traded for should help....

>As to horned toads, I can't phathom why anyone would want to purchase 
>such a difficult to keep alive species.  There was a guy up around here
>while back (2-3 years) selling them for $45 a pair, I believe. . . .
These were
>domesticly breed.  I'll look into it if your interested....

Does anyone know if they eat fire ants ? There is a colony of them near
here that is a transplant and has done well for years and years so the
locals say...

>J. L. Wiegert