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Re: NFC: Re: "The Burbs"



Sad but true :( And its nature and wildlife that will suffer them most

Wally
----- Original Message -----
From: David Meyers <dmeyers at salts_navy.mil>
To: <nfc at actwin_com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: NFC: Re: "The Burbs"


> First we'll screw the Colorado some more...
> Then, we'll move to suck more water out of the delta to move south...
> Finally, we'll tax the heck out of folks to open up desal plants...
> But we won't stop development, I'll bet a Happy Meal on it!
>
> On 3/12/02 1:17 PM, "Wally Billingham"
<wallybillingham at wallybillingham_com>
> wrote:
>
> > They will care when the water runs out. They thought losing power was
bad,
> > what about having no water?
> >
> > Wally
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: jake levi <jlevi_us at yahoo_com>
> > To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: NFC: Re: "The Burbs"
> >
> >
> >> Then you remember Escondido as a pretty little town.
> >> My big complaint is the irrigating of ornamentals for
> >> artificial aesthetics. I also still get heartburn from
> >> the irrigated cotton around Phoenix. The oranges of
> >> orange cnty have been yanked out and replaced with
> >> higher selling avocadoes which are now over producing
> >> so they trash millions of lbs every year. Urban sprawl
> >> is another major mess and its also drawing down the
> >> aquifirs.
> >>
> >> and no-one gives a damn. at least not enough to do
> >> anything about or for it. The politicians are the last
> >> ones who are going to open thier yellow mealymouths.
> >> jake
> >> --- David Meyers <dmeyers at salts_navy.mil> wrote:
> >>> It isn't just Southern California...
> >>> Take a look at Las Vegas, Phoenix, Tuscon.
> >>> Take a look at the rice fields of northern
> >>> California, the cotton fields of
> >>> Central Califonia, the tomatoes out in Yuma - these
> >>> are all damaging the
> >>> environment in one way or another.
> >>> Urban sprawl in Georgia and the Carolinas around
> >>> every lake and river...
> >>> Hawaii itself...enough exotics there to ensure mass
> >>> extinction...
> >>> We can go on and on, the problem is sprawl - instead
> >>> of recycling land -
> >>> urban blight areas, we find it easier to go to
> >>> undeveloped or agricultural
> >>> land to build...away from all that.  When I first
> >>> showed up in San Diego in
> >>> 66, it was mostly farm and ranch land, and the
> >>> problems you detail below,
> >>> were quite insignificant - that has all changed now.
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 3/12/02 6:55 AM, "jake levi" <jlevi_us at yahoo_com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Arlus, one correction,
> >>>> you should have written all of Southern California
> >>> and
> >>>> much of Central. The irrigation of ice plants and
> >>>> other exotics on highway medians is a disgrace.
> >>>> California has a 'mediteranean' climate and they
> >>> want
> >>>> it to be Hawaii.
> >>>> The water isnot there to do it so they are
> >>> draining
> >>>> much of the western aquifer for ornamental
> >>> irrigation.
> >>>>
> >>>> The national disgrace is about to become a
> >>> national
> >>>> disaster.
> >>>> jake
> >>>> --- Arlus Farnsworth <arlusf at cwnet_com> wrote:
> >>>>> Just a quick comment... suburbia is known to
> >>> replace
> >>>>> native vegetation
> >>>>> with imported exotics, usually not palatable to
> >>>>> local wildlife needs,
> >>>>> hence an ornamental desert functionally. Green
> >>> lawns
> >>>>> in the desert is a
> >>>>> perfectly horrid extreme of this mentality. Case
> >>> in
> >>>>> point, the city
> >>>>> state and country of LA.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And this all started out because the project is
> >>>>> REPLACING the wetlands and a
> >>>>>> rookery
> >>>>>> SamB
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Boo
> >>>>>> I dont see the 'burbs being trashed into garbage
> >>>>> dumps
> >>>>>> at quite the same rate as the 'low cost housing
> >>>>>> developments'.
> >>>>
> >>>>
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