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Re: NFC: RE: Re: RE: Re: Parasites
It might not be the same condition, but I have successfully used CLOUT to
treat similar sounding conditions quite effectively.
Luke
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Bryce Daniels wrote:
> I heard over the weekend that these black spots are likely some type of
> parasitic nematode (worm). I didn't, however, get any info on the
> communicability between fish, or the negative impacts it has on its fish
> host.
> -Bryce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nfc at actwin_com [mailto:owner-nfc at actwin_com]On Behalf Of
> nickel55
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:29 PM
> To: nfc at actwin_com
> Subject: NFC: Re: RE: Re: Parasites
>
>
> In reply to Wally and Bryce, the fish in question, were collected from small
> pools from the over flow of a nearby stream. The pools were not the best
> water conditions. I know that one sunfish I collected a couple months ago,
> was from the stream itself, and that fish seems to be free of parasites. If
> they don't harm the fish and they don't seem to be spreading, I guess I'll
> just have to get use to a few spotted fish. I do have a couple of killifish
> that I netted in open moving water, they only have a couple of these
> parasites, so the worst one's were from the pools.
> Terry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryce Daniels" <brycedan at mindspring_com>
> To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:09 AM
> Subject: NFC: RE: Re: Parasites
>
>
> > Those black spots are definitely not glochidia (mussel larvae)--these
> mussel
> > larvae encyst either on the gills or fins of their fish host. When a fish
> > does carry them, they're usually white or translucent, not black. The
> black
> > spots you're seeing are likely all over the scales or beneath them?? I'm
> > not sure what they are, but I've seen them commonly referred to as "black
> > spot," and seem usually to be indicative of some type of water quality
> > problem. The places where I've seen them most dense are generally areas
> > with a low diversity of fish and macroinvertebrates, with many habitat
> > disturbances. However, they can also be seen on fish in pristine
> > conditions, but their numbers are usually less and they are found on just
> a
> > few fish, if any. This has been my experience, anyway. Someone else
> would
> > have to tell you exactly what they are, and whether they can be
> transported
> > from fish to fish. As for the mussel glochidia, they can sometimes be
> seen
> > by the naked eye when encysted upon the fins of a fish, but it's harder to
> > see them on the gills without cutting off the mantle flaps and looking
> under
> > a microscope.
> > -Bryce
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nfc at actwin_com [mailto:owner-nfc at actwin_com]On Behalf Of
> > Wally Billingham
> > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:28 PM
> > To: nfc at actwin_com
> > Subject: NFC: Re: Parasites
> >
> >
> > Were they in a stream with a lot of fresh water mussels? The first stage
> in
> > the life cycle of a mussel is to be a parasite on a fish. That way the
> fish
> > move them around and when they feel like it they just drop off and will
> > spend the rest of their life within a few feet of that spot. I see it on
> the
> > fish here in French Creek (N.W. PA) all of the time. If thats what they
> are
> > they will do know harm. Also many (if not all) native species of fresh
> water
> > mussels are Federally Protected or Federally Endangered. Mainly due to
> > exotic introductions and pollution.
> >
> > There is NOTHING sadder to me than to see a huge endangered mussel covered
> > with 100's of Exotic Zebra Mussels. Unfortunately I saw that WAY to many
> > times this past year in Lake Erie and the streams that feed it. I PRAY
> that
> > they never find their way into French Creek but I know that they will. The
> > problem is that the Zebra Mussels grow so well on other mussels that they
> > can't open their shells and starve or suffocate.
> >
> >
> > Wally
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: nickel55 <nickel55 at worldnet_att.net>
> > To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:16 PM
> > Subject: NFC: Parasites
> >
> >
> > > Thanks, to the people that answered my question about stonerollers and
> why
> > they're not sold in the pet shop trade. Now to my other question. Some of
> > the fish I have collected this year, my first year collecting, I have
> > noticed some small black spots on them. One small sunfish really has a lot
> > of them, I didn't notice the spots until I put the fish in the tank. The
> > fish in question have been in the tank at least 4 to 6 weeks and no
> > problems. Now I have read that these black , pin head size, spots are a
> > parasite, that really doesn't harm the fish and don't spread from fish to
> > fish. Is this true? and can anything be done to get rid of the them?
> > >
> > >
> > Terry
> > >
> > >
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