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Re: NFC: Answering R.J.'s questions and asking some more of my own
Chris
I amnot a "Robert Rice supporter" per se. I do support
the NFC and am content with what I see. You obviously
arenot.
You may consider your questions 'tough', I consider
them to be rude in the way that you brought the issue
up, it would have been FAR more appropriate and
courteous to have posted a request as to the
funding/finances of the NFC. That would have also been
much more businesslike.
Instead you came on like a barroom brawler looking for
a fight. Not nice. Robert was addressing your concerns
but you wernt paying attention.
I dont know about others on the list but this is
giving me a sour taste just reading it.
I would suggest that you engage in a little 'Christian
charity', chill out a bit, and start over again. There
is a right way and a wrong way to do things. This is a
small organization, we are all supposed to be friends
and associates, lets keep our posts that way.
jake
--- Christian J Hedemark <chris at yonderway_com> wrote:
> Robert, you addressed your supporter but ignored the
> guy asking the tough
> questions. I'd appreciate the courtesy of you
> taking some time to answer
> the key points I made, especially those aimed at the
> club officers.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "robert a rice" <robertrice at juno_com>
> To: <nfc at actwin_com>;
> <Nativefishconservancy at yahoogroups_com>
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 7:40 AM
> Subject: Re: NFC: Answering R.J.'s questions and
> asking some more of my own
>
>
> > Jake,
> > You pretty much hit the nail on the head. It is
> much easier to steer a
> > moving car. The NFC is moving albiet slowly. It
> willl only get to the
> > critical mass level if it's memebers do something.
> I cant go to your town
> > and do something. There is no NFC swat team out
> there ready to leap into
> > eco action when I hit the red Fish Button.The NFC
> is a framework. We
> > educate and empower as we can. Most of our
> volunteers donate thier time
> > for a few months or even a year but imagine what a
> decade or even of
> > lifetime of efforts could produce.
> >
> > I try and look at the big picture. This day isnt
> as important as this
> > movement, this belief, this cause that is the NFC
> >
> >
> > Robert Rice
> > NFC president
> > www.nativefish.org
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 03:19:46 -0800 (PST) jake levi
> <jlevi_us at yahoo_com>
> > writes:
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > all of what you are looking for (90% plus or
> minus)
> > > takes money, which takes more members, that
> other 10%
> > > takes member input/involvement. From what I can
> see,
> > > also sitting on the sidelines, there are 3-4 of
> the
> > > members doing 99% of the work and one of them is
> > > sledding along.
> > >
> > > Accountability is fine, quarterly?? Get a life!
> Theres
> > > not that much money involved, and, thats another
> > > members' total involvement. I know, I am a
> member of
> > > the AKA, and that requires the efforts of two
> members
> > > who have lives in addition to their membership
> plus
> > > their own fishrooms. It would be nice to get a
> flier
> > > once a year with a simple statement, but I would
> like
> > > to see a lot of other things much more, its not
> real
> > > high on my want list.
> > >
> > > For my part , if NFC never did another thing
> then
> > > encourage the keeping of natives I would applaud
> > > profusely. The answer to your concerns is member
> > > involvement, with much more involved, we would
> have
> > > much more of what you are concerned about,
> without it
> > > we have what we have. Its that simple.
> > >
> > > BP?? Get involved, do it, write articles, spread
> the
> > > word.
> > >
> > > You want results from the ATP? Sponsor one in
> your
> > > area, and get involved, take the kids on a
> collecting
> > > trip, follow through with them, give some talks,
> if
> > > you want warm fuzzies get a golden retriever. I
> have a
> > > telegram for you from the schools of america,
> input
> > > there is one of the most unrewarded and
> unthanked jobs
> > > on the planet.
> > >
> > > Chris I share your concerns, but, having been
> involved
> > > in so many organizations such as ours both
> > > professional and hobbyist for forty plus years,
> what
> > > we are concerned about is almost entirely the
> product
> > > of low membership involvement.
> > >
> > > We are all here for our interests in natives,
> but the
> > > quality of what we get out of it, the 'bells and
> > > , are a factor or our input. I am sorry to
> > > say that I have done little in that area myself.
> I
> > > have a strong interest in endangered and
> threatened
> > > species yet havenot begun to breed even one of
> them.
> > >
> > > I think that its time that we all got off of our
> > > assets, and got with the programs and came up
> with
> > > some new ones too.
> > >
> > > I would add, get out and get at least one new
> member.
> > >
> > > jake
> > > picking feathers from humble crow.
> > >
> > > ---
> >
>
>
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