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Re: NFC: NANFA etc

Well said Robert. 

I am a member of both orgaizations, I amnot active in
Nanfa, just send a check. Good organization, but
individually they give me gas. So I support them and
stay away.

I like the NFC local involvement. I have sledded this
last year, not done squat. I am going to look and see
what can be done here, and, I am going to pick out at
least one threatened native and get some captive
breeding going. Much beyond that I dont see what all
else, we shall see, time will tell. 

Maybe we could divide the country and the world into
regions, have Robert appoint some command sergeant
majors for each region, arm them and turn them loose
to get members, start projects and enforce follow

Or maybe we could just each of us ask ourselves what
can I do?

--- robert a rice <robertrice at juno_com> wrote:
> Mr. Rogers and all,
> First of let me throw out a concept . Perhaps NANFA
> and the NFC should
> not and are not mutually exclusive. $30 a year to
> support both
> organizations is not an obscene amount. Each  has a
> focus and a direction
> but both are working , however flawed to help our
> native fishes .So whats
> wrong with helping both organizations grow ?
> We all have our agendas some big some small but the
> real question we
> should ask is does it help in the greater native
> fish conservation
> effort. If it does not ,is it really important? If
> it does we should
> support as best we can.
> As I see it here are the differences :
> NANFA puts out a better publication. They use that
> as their primary
> vehicle to educate. They do a good job at it and our
> Flier is not as
> good. That is a great strength of theirs , so for
> many folks a this alone
> is good reason to join NANFA.They should be
> congratulated for their
> efforts.
> The NFC is a 501 c 3 Non profit organization. That
> is why we are in a
> position to receive Corporate grants and the Like.
> See Marineland as an
> example, NANFA is not. So any NFC donation is tax
> deduct able. That is
> one of our major strengths. We were incorporated
> from the beginning to be
> a non profit. That is the road we chose and the road
> we will follow.
> NFC has since its inception worked with other groups
> like The Nature
> Conservancy on specific projects. Thats what any
> extra $$ we have goes
> towards. We have supported breeding programs. Like
> Ray Katulas Crystal
> Darter Research, the Blue Pike hunt etc etc...see
> for details
> http://www.nativefish.org/News/index.html
> NANFA does a better Job of serving the needs of its
> members. The NFC does
> a better Job of serving the needs of local
> activists. Some NFC members,
> many not. That leads us to getting burned once in a
> while but its all
> part of the program.
> NANFA has a 20 plus year track record and history
> and they are doing
> well. I am very familiar with NANFA's inner
> workings. Heck I was a the
> President of NANFA. They do a good job of giving
> their members the full
> value for their membership. I have hopes that in the
> member services
> department we can be more like NANFA. The NFC
> spending is weighed more
> toward local program grants, instead of member
> benefits.
> They NFC is hobbled by it's small volunteer base but
> we are growing ever
> so slowly. Yes we are stalling a bit at the 600-700
> member level. When we
> move forward  prgram wise membership will grow in
> membership base.
> Finally The NFC is always looking to partner
> locally. Not to say NANFA is
> or is not. Just stating what we are here for. Our
> resources are limited
> but we move forward. To put it all to rest with 300
> plus species of
> Native Fish and 10% of all threatened species being
> NA fishes is their
> room for any person to participate in  inter group
> in fighting ? I think
> not. If our Native fishes are not worth 10$ , 20$ or
> 30$  a year , to you
> then you are in the wrong place it's not about us
> it's about the fish !!!
> So move on .
> So if you like Native Fishes , pick one
> organization, pick both but get
> involved. It makes the difference. See it's not
> about one or the other it
> is about the Fish simple as that.
> BTW Yes the NFC is imperfect yes the NFC is under
> powered and  Yes we are
> learning as we go, But we are doing good things that
> would not get done
> without us ! So get involved.
> Robert Rice
> NFC president
> www.nativefish.org
> Former NANFA prez :)

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