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Re: NFC: New Fishes Available

Well according to the rules we were emailed there is no difference. We were
told that actwin.com will not allow any commercial postings of any kind
period. Was this true or not? If it was then we need to due the same things
we did to Chris.

"Chris was warned off-list that commercial postings were off-limits on any
the actwin lists, especially a <b>weekly</b> listing.  As such, he has been
unsubscribed from the list.  This ends the thread.  I don't want to see any
responses to his mailign on this list, or any comments re: the decision on
the list."

This was what was sent to us back in October about Chris.  Those of us who
are DUE PAYING active members of the NFC were not even allowed to talk about
it. (I for one do not like like being told what I can and can not talk about
by an organization that I pay to be a part of, but that is a different

This certainly was a commercial post. I am a part of the NFC because I found
it to be a fair group that cared about native fish, unlike the "other
national group" that cares way to much about politics and favoritism. We
need to decide right now what the real policy of this list is going to be
regarding commercial postings. If it is true that commercial postings are
against the rules than we need to take the same steps we did before. If not
than we need to offer a formal apology to Chris and reinstate him. Fair is
fair after all.

But besides the fairness issue the biggest problem I have with this post is
that there are fish on that list that are endangered and protected in
several states. If I were for instance, to order tadpole madtoms, or longear
sunfish I could get into big time trouble with the State of PA. Many of
these fish are also game fish that are way undersized to be legally
possessed in most if not all states. I would not like to explain to the DNR
why I have 3-4 inch bass and walleye in my possession.  Thats not to mention
the many fish listed than are not native but could very easily become
introduced pests. I just see no justification for the NFC being part of
promoting something that violates what we are supposed to be about and that
is the commercial exploitation of native fish that are against the law to

Thank You For Your Time

PS Happy Thanksgiving! :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Olson <olson7 at hotmail_com>
To: <nfc at actwin_com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: NFC: New Fishes Available

> With all due respect, folks, let's all lighten up on this stuff.  I'm
> glad for a 'heads up' when something new is available, and I'm glad to
> support list members' enterprises when I can.
> I think there's a difference between sending a hundred-or-so item price
> and sending a link with a brief message.  On the other hand, I had no
> problem with Chris' post, either!
> No harm....no foul...
> - and -
> Happy Thanksgiving all!!
> Off to Las Vegas for a few days - to visit family, NOT to feed the slots!!
> Best,
> Scott
> >From: "Wally Billingham" <wallybillingham at wallybillingham_com>
> >Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com
> >To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> >Subject: Re: NFC: New Fishes Available
> >Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:56:28 -0500
> >
> >I would have to agree why was this a no no for Chris but not for Mark?
> >rules say no comercial postings of any kind.
> >
> >Wally
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Greg <nativefishlist at qualitytropicalfish_com>
> >To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 1:34 AM
> >Subject: Re: NFC: New Fishes Available
> >
> >
> > > Hey,
> > > When I read the new rules, wasn't solocitation reason for being booted
> >off
> > > of the list?!  I had a friend, Chris, who got kicked off a couple of
> >weeks
> > > ago for posting his fish list.
> > > BTW, I am new at this list, just been a lurker, so hello!  Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > Mark writes:
> > >
> > > > Jonah's got some new fishes in stock.  And some new fish photos too.
> >Check
> > > > out the web site for photos of the new fish --
> > > > http://jonahsaquarium.com/fishlist.htm
> > > >
> > > > Check out the Gallery for all the
> > > > fish photos -- http://jonahsaquarium.com/picgallery.htm
> > > >
> > > > Some of the new fishes include Ellasoma (pygmy sunfish), rock bass,
> >crappie
> > > > and walleye.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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