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RE: NFC: RE: Re: Shipping of fish



For the record.  It does not prohibit shipping live fish... just gives
new rules for shipping live stuff.

http://www.usps.com/news/2001/press/pr01_liveanimal.htm

It doesn't say they wont accept fish there... and it says "such as"
... with examples.. crickets being one of them :)

Paul

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sachs Systems Aquaculture
1185 Thompson Bailey Road
St. Augustine FL  32084

PHONE:  (904) 824 - 6308
ICQ  :  4216428
EMAIL:  Mailto:Deano at AquacultureStore_com
web  :  http://www.AquacultureStore.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nfc at actwin_com [mailto:owner-nfc at actwin_com]On Behalf Of
Chris Perry
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 9:22 PM
To: nfc at actwin_com
Subject: Re: NFC: RE: Re: Shipping of fish


Yeah, but the "federal reguations" are really screwing us over, they
didn't
put any thought into this new law, rule whatever.

Chris Perry, Owner
E Fish Solutions
fishystuff00
fishystuff00 at hotmail_com



>From: "Wally Billingham" <wallybillingham at wallybillingham_com>
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>Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 19:33:33 -0400
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>IMHO I think that we are missing the main point of all of this.
Postal
>regulations are federal regulations. If you knowing break Federal
>Regulations you can and will face major legal problems. In the past I
never
>labeled my fish shipments as such because I was always afraid that
some
>jerk
>would do something to the box out of meanness, however I always knew
it was
>legal to do so. Now however it is not, and I think we should all
follow the
>law.
>
>Wally
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Al G Eaton <sege7_2000 at yahoo_com>
>To: <nfc at actwin_com>
>Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 5:56 PM
>Subject: Re: NFC: RE: Re: Shipping of fish
>
>
> > Have your wife, girl friend or mother take them to the
> > post office.
> >
> >
> > --- Chris Perry <fishystuff00 at hotmail_com> wrote:
> > > The PO here sees me every weeks shipping packages
> > > with live animal labels on
> > > it.  How do I work around that?  Thanks,
> > >
> > > Chris Perry, Owner
> > > E Fish Solutions
> > > fishystuff00
> > > fishystuff00 at hotmail_com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Paul Sachs" <deano at aquaculturestore_com>
> > > >Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com
> > > >To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> > > >Subject: NFC: RE: Re: Shipping of fish
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> > > >Work around it.  Don't write on it LIVE ANIMALS, or
> > > such.  and if
> > > >questioned simply say it's water samples (has
> > > worked for me for 13
> > > >years.)
> > > >Paul
> > > >
> > > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >Sachs Systems Aquaculture
> > > >1185 Thompson Bailey Road
> > > >St. Augustine FL  32084
> > > >
> > > >PHONE:  (904) 824 - 6308
> > > >ICQ  :  4216428
> > > >EMAIL:  Mailto:Deano at AquacultureStore_com
> > > >web  :  http://www.AquacultureStore.com
> > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: owner-nfc at actwin_com
> > > [mailto:owner-nfc at actwin_com]On Behalf Of
> > > >Rev. Christian J Hedemark
> > > >Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 2:29 AM
> > > >To: nfc at actwin_com
> > > >Subject: NFC: Re: Shjipping of fish
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Robert writes:
> > > >
> > > > > The USPS informs me it no longer takes live
> > > animals.  Unless this
> > > >changes
> > > > > the trading of fish may well be over anyone else
> > > heard this it is a
> > > >new
> > > > > law that went into effect Tuesday NO LIVE
> > > ANYTHING except insects !
> > > >
> > > >Correction.
> > > >
> > > >They won't even ship insects.  I was scrambling to
> > > feed my collection
> > > >of old
> > > >world chameleons when my regular shipments stopped
> > > coming.  I now have
> > > >to
> > > >use UPS or other courier.
> > > >
> > > >There seems to be two different problems:
> > > >
> > > >1) FedEx refuses to ship live animals.  The USPS
> > > has a deal with FedEx
> > > >to
> > > >handle all air deliveries, and this is a sticky
> > > point they are trying
> > > >to
> > > >work out.
> > > >2) Many of the major airlines that the USPS (and
> > > other couriers) uses
> > > >are
> > > >starting to buckle under pressure from animal
> > > rights groups, and
> > > >refusing to
> > > >ship live animals.  There is legislation pending
> > > for some subsets of
> > > >animals
> > > >(such as poultry chicks) to continue shipping but
> > > nothing sweeping
> > > >that
> > > >would help us out anytime soon.
> > > >
> > > >The whole thing is a real mess.  Since I'm trying
> > > to turn my chameleon
> > > >hobby
> > > >into a business, it is particularly frightening to
> > > me.  Sure I'll
> > > >still have
> > > >herp shows but this is going to put a real dent in
> > > my ability to
> > > >market my
> > > >animals on a national level.  I'm also likely going
> > > to have to farm my
> > > >own
> > > >crickets.
> > > >
> > > >Reverend Christian J Hedemark II
> > > >Hillsborough, NC
> > > >http://yonderway.com
> > > >"Those who are willing to sacrifice essential
> > > liberties for a little
> > > >order,
> > > >will lose both and deserve neither." - Benjamin
> > > Franklin
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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