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Re: NFC: Re: Francis Wagner

Being in the military for over 20 years (with a 19 year break in service
after a 13 month tour of Vietnam) I have a strong believe in our freedoms
and speech is one of them. If Francis Wagner had put a smile face at the end
of statement some may have looked at it in a different light. There are many
that put a message that I don't see eye to eye with on this and many other
list that I belong to, I use the delete key on them. That should be one of
our new freedoms list in D.C... I personally didn't know that a mild comment
like that could have a harsh reaction from the list. I'll have go back (when
I have time) to the opening letter that I saved from this list and see if it
was listed that action could be taken for this misjudgment in the use of
that freedom of speech. I know of a list Mom that gives warning and then
post the rule to remind everyone on her many list what that ruling is. A
repeat of the offending action is then deadly for a year or two, in some
case never to heard from again. My vote and my suggestion is to re post the
rules (yearly?) and let Francis Wagner and the current list take this as a
warning as what will happen for breaking these rules. JiM C. (SFC James E.
Capelle)

P.S. This is just my early morning thoughts before I go to work to do PT
(Yes I work full time with the military now). JC

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hedemark" <chris at yonderway_com>
To: <nfc at actwin_com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: NFC: Re: Francis Wagner


> Make that "me three".
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wright Huntley" <huntley1 at home_com>
> To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:55 PM
> Subject: Re: NFC: Re: Francis Wagner
>
>
> > At risk of sounding like an old AOL type, I'll add my "me too."
> >
> > I'd like to second Luke's request to reinstate Frank.
> >
> > Wright
> >
> > Scott Olson wrote:
> > >
> > > Dittos.
> > >
> > > I'd just add that all humans are the same species, even though we are
> > > composed of different 'races'.
> > >
> > > >From: mcclurg luke e     <mcclurgl at washburn_edu>
> > > >Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com
> > > >To: nfc at actwin_com
> > > >Subject: Re: NFC: Re: Francis Wagner
> > > >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:03:11 -0500 (CDT)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I don't think that discussing and "debunking" common myths is
> considered
> > > >"racist" or "bigotry".  To say one race is better than another would
be
> by
> > > >definition.  To express one's opinion on who has caused the most
> > > >environmental damage however and the misconceptions or outright lies
> > > >propagated because of those discussions is crucial (in my opinion) to
> the
> > > >PROPER education of people of all races to the needs of our native
fish
> > > >species...no matter what continent they are on.
> > > >
> > > >As for Europeans being "exotics" or "introduced" to this continent I
> wish
> > > >to say that no species of Homo sapiens originated (according to
> science's
> > > >evolutionary theories) upon this continent.  All races migrated here
> from
> > > >some other location.  Whether is was a migration of 12,00 years ago,
> 6000
> > > >years ago, 2000 years ago or 500 years ago we all came from somewhere
> > > >else.  All migrations made serious impacts on the ecosystems of the
> > > >time...just ask the Wooly Mammoth.  Migration is a part of the human
> > > >equation and what has happened on this continent is merely a
reflection
> of
> > > >what has happened on this planet for millenia, it is not any
different
> > > >than anywhere else in the world.  To this day, Homo sapiens from
other
> > > >parts of the world continue to migrate to this continent and will
> continue
> > > >to do so for the forseeable future.  This is irrefutable historical
> FACT.
> > > >
> > > >It is relatively easy to look these things up for oneself, and I
would
> > > >recommend that everyone involved in this discussion do just that.  As
> well
> > > >as check the dictionary and encyclopedia for correct definitions of
> words,
> > > >such as "racism" and "bigotry".  That way we can all avoid confusion
in
> > > >the future.
> > > >
> > > >As a dues paying member of the NFC and one who works hard to promote
> > > >consevation and historical accuracy for both man and beast I would
like
> > > >to request that Frank be reinstated to the list.
> > > >
> > > >Luke McClurg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Joshua Wiegert wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Keep any racism and bigotry off this list.  Francis Wagner has
been
> > > >removed
> > > > > from it.
> > > > >
> > > > > end
> > > > >   ____^__
> > > > > ><,Darwin,>
> > > > > Joshua L. Wiegert
> > > > > NFC Lists Administrator                          JLW at dune_net
> > > > > www.geocities.com/JoshWiegert
> owner-nfc at actwin_com
> > > > > www.dcpondcare.com
> pondcare at dcpondcare_com
> > > > > ICQ Unavailable For Now                          AIM UID:
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> > > > > Feel free to contact me by any of the above means for any reason.
> > > > >
> > >
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