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Re: NFC: Eagle Parts was RE: Auctions OT ?

This law is one of the sillier ones on the books.   I have a pair of hawks
nesting in my back yard (it's like Marty Stauffer's Wild America back there)
and it would be neat to hang a couple of the feathers from the rear view
mirror in my truck.  But I dare not because of the strong arm tactics of the
federal government.  Oooooooh don't get me started.  The founding fathers
are rolling over in their graves, disgusted of what we've done with the
nation they gave us.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wally Billingham" <wallybillingham at wallybillingham_com>
To: <nfc at actwin_com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: NFC: Eagle Parts was RE: Auctions OT ?


> So did I break the law this spring when I found a dead redtail hawk in my
> yard badly decomposed after a winter under snow, and just tossed it in the
> trash? Hawks like this are very, very common around here.
>
> Wally
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jake levi <jlevi_us at yahoo_com>
> To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: NFC: Eagle Parts was RE: Auctions OT ?
>
>
> > Kris you are on target, another  use is for those
> > holding valid Falconry permits, some wing (flight
> > feathers) can be retained from season to season from
> > the permitted birds' prior molts for the purpose of
> > 'imping'(repairing a damaged flight feather). Most
> > states include this permission along with the permit
> > to hold a captive bird.
> >
> > Captive bred birds are also regulated, and births ,
> > deaths and disposition of any body parts must be
> > reported.
> >
> >  The imping is more common among the actual falcons
> > then hawks although Goldens also tend to screw up new
> > feathers.
> >
> > However, possession of ANY raptor in the US or Canada
> > is strictly regulated and violators are fined and
> > jailed. Obtaining a permit is only after a several
> > year apprentice program in all states and Canada.
> >
> > The majority of the feathers that you see Native
> > Indians using at powwows etc are either turkey or
> > goose feathers. Possession of actual raptor feathers
> > for religious ceremonies is as Kris stated regulated.
> > There are very few such actual ceremonys performed
> > today, mostly in the southwest and the upper midwest,
> > and the feathers used are almost always from
> > accidental death birds.
> >
> > jake
> >
> > jake
> >
> >
> > --- Kristine Weisbrod Massin <kwmprairie at hotmail_com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay--I've had to enforce this law before and that
> > > is NOT how it works.  NO
> > > ONE in the US can possess any part (whether feather,
> > > talon, or whathaveyou)
> > > or nest of any migratory bird (including neotropical
> > > migrants such as robins
> > > & bluebirds).  In addition to this law, the Bald and
> > > Golden Eagle Act and
> > > (up until this year) the Endangered Species Act
> > > (bald eagle only) also
> > > protect these birds.  Those are the laws which
> > > prevent ANYONE--whether
> > > native american, ignorant 7 year old, or trigger
> > > happy redneck--from
> > > possessing or harming these birds.  IF you think
> > > about it for a minute the
> > > reason they had to ban possession rather than just
> > > killing is pretty
> > > obvious--very difficult to have witnesses everywhere
> > > to see someone poison
> > > or shoot an eagle.  Everyone could simply claim that
> > > they found the body or
> > > feathers or whatever.
> > >
> > > HOWEVER, anyone who has a valid use for eagle
> > > feathers or parts--whether
> > > that use is religious or educational--may fill out
> > > an application, submit it
> > > to the Fish & Wildlife Service, and get put on the
> > > waiting list.  When your
> > > name comes up, your bird or bird parts will be
> > > shipped to you.  Anyone
> > > finding any raptor body or parts (electrocution is
> > > the number one cause of
> > > death for these birds)is supposed to get the birds
> > > to the National Eagle and
> > > Wildlife Repository which is located just north of
> > > Denver, CO (and
> > > incidentally at the same complex where I work)--you
> > > can either mail them or
> > > turn them over to your state agency which will do it
> > > for you.
> > >
> > > If you have a VALID use for a part, it is purely
> > > first-come, first-serve.
> > > Even though I eat lunch with the repository staff &
> > > work for the FWS, I have
> > > exactly the same wait time as everyone else when I
> > > need a part for my
> > > education programs.  Right now, it is about 2 years
> > > if you want a whole
> > > adult bird--juvenile birds are less, and parts &
> > > feathers are considerably
> > > less.
> > >
> > > Take the time to find out what the laws really are
> > > before you start spouting
> > > off next time.
> > >
> > > -kris
> > >
> > > >From: piney01 at webtv_net (Francis Wagner)
> > > >Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com
> > > >To: nfc at actwin_com
> > > >Subject: Re: NFC: RE: Auctions OT ?
> > > >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:21:32 -0400 (EDT)
> > > >
> > > >yes i agree with that. i heard on the news
> > > yesterday that if a whiteman
> > > >like us pick up a feather from a bald  eagle and
> > > keeps it and takes it
> > > >home and if the police or  the government knows you
> > > have one they will
> > > >give you a heavy fine and you could go to jail. the
> > > only people that can
> > > >keep them are the redskins the the united states.
> > > that makes me sick.
> > > >why is that      us white folks are always being
> > > picked on. we should
> > > >turn the table around for a change.     frank
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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