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Re: NFC: Eagle Parts was RE: Auctions OT ?





Only if you kept the feathers :)  Honestly, most LE officers aren't going to 
give you grief over an honest mistake. And hawks aren't processed all that 
often, as you said they are far more common.

>From: "Wally Billingham" <wallybillingham at wallybillingham_com>
>Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com
>To: <nfc at actwin_com>
>Subject: Re: NFC: Eagle Parts was RE: Auctions OT ?
>Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:23:45 -0400
>
>So did I break the law this spring when I found a dead redtail hawk in my
>yard badly decomposed after a winter under snow, and just tossed it in the
>trash? Hawks like this are very, very common around here.
>
>Wally
>----- Original Message -----
>From: jake levi <jlevi_us at yahoo_com>
>To: <nfc at actwin_com>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:01 AM
>Subject: Re: NFC: Eagle Parts was RE: Auctions OT ?
>
>
> > Kris you are on target, another  use is for those
> > holding valid Falconry permits, some wing (flight
> > feathers) can be retained from season to season from
> > the permitted birds' prior molts for the purpose of
> > 'imping'(repairing a damaged flight feather). Most
> > states include this permission along with the permit
> > to hold a captive bird.
> >
> > Captive bred birds are also regulated, and births ,
> > deaths and disposition of any body parts must be
> > reported.
> >
> >  The imping is more common among the actual falcons
> > then hawks although Goldens also tend to screw up new
> > feathers.
> >
> > However, possession of ANY raptor in the US or Canada
> > is strictly regulated and violators are fined and
> > jailed. Obtaining a permit is only after a several
> > year apprentice program in all states and Canada.
> >
> > The majority of the feathers that you see Native
> > Indians using at powwows etc are either turkey or
> > goose feathers. Possession of actual raptor feathers
> > for religious ceremonies is as Kris stated regulated.
> > There are very few such actual ceremonys performed
> > today, mostly in the southwest and the upper midwest,
> > and the feathers used are almost always from
> > accidental death birds.
> >
> > jake
> >
> > jake
> >
> >
> > --- Kristine Weisbrod Massin <kwmprairie at hotmail_com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay--I've had to enforce this law before and that
> > > is NOT how it works.  NO
> > > ONE in the US can possess any part (whether feather,
> > > talon, or whathaveyou)
> > > or nest of any migratory bird (including neotropical
> > > migrants such as robins
> > > & bluebirds).  In addition to this law, the Bald and
> > > Golden Eagle Act and
> > > (up until this year) the Endangered Species Act
> > > (bald eagle only) also
> > > protect these birds.  Those are the laws which
> > > prevent ANYONE--whether
> > > native american, ignorant 7 year old, or trigger
> > > happy redneck--from
> > > possessing or harming these birds.  IF you think
> > > about it for a minute the
> > > reason they had to ban possession rather than just
> > > killing is pretty
> > > obvious--very difficult to have witnesses everywhere
> > > to see someone poison
> > > or shoot an eagle.  Everyone could simply claim that
> > > they found the body or
> > > feathers or whatever.
> > >
> > > HOWEVER, anyone who has a valid use for eagle
> > > feathers or parts--whether
> > > that use is religious or educational--may fill out
> > > an application, submit it
> > > to the Fish & Wildlife Service, and get put on the
> > > waiting list.  When your
> > > name comes up, your bird or bird parts will be
> > > shipped to you.  Anyone
> > > finding any raptor body or parts (electrocution is
> > > the number one cause of
> > > death for these birds)is supposed to get the birds
> > > to the National Eagle and
> > > Wildlife Repository which is located just north of
> > > Denver, CO (and
> > > incidentally at the same complex where I work)--you
> > > can either mail them or
> > > turn them over to your state agency which will do it
> > > for you.
> > >
> > > If you have a VALID use for a part, it is purely
> > > first-come, first-serve.
> > > Even though I eat lunch with the repository staff &
> > > work for the FWS, I have
> > > exactly the same wait time as everyone else when I
> > > need a part for my
> > > education programs.  Right now, it is about 2 years
> > > if you want a whole
> > > adult bird--juvenile birds are less, and parts &
> > > feathers are considerably
> > > less.
> > >
> > > Take the time to find out what the laws really are
> > > before you start spouting
> > > off next time.
> > >
> > > -kris
> > >
> > > >From: piney01 at webtv_net (Francis Wagner)
> > > >Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com
> > > >To: nfc at actwin_com
> > > >Subject: Re: NFC: RE: Auctions OT ?
> > > >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:21:32 -0400 (EDT)
> > > >
> > > >yes i agree with that. i heard on the news
> > > yesterday that if a whiteman
> > > >like us pick up a feather from a bald  eagle and
> > > keeps it and takes it
> > > >home and if the police or  the government knows you
> > > have one they will
> > > >give you a heavy fine and you could go to jail. the
> > > only people that can
> > > >keep them are the redskins the the united states.
> > > that makes me sick.
> > > >why is that      us white folks are always being
> > > picked on. we should
> > > >turn the table around for a change.     frank
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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