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Re: NFC: Eagle Parts was RE: Auctions OT ?



So did I break the law this spring when I found a dead redtail hawk in my
yard badly decomposed after a winter under snow, and just tossed it in the
trash? Hawks like this are very, very common around here.

Wally
----- Original Message -----
From: jake levi <jlevi_us at yahoo_com>
To: <nfc at actwin_com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: NFC: Eagle Parts was RE: Auctions OT ?


> Kris you are on target, another  use is for those
> holding valid Falconry permits, some wing (flight
> feathers) can be retained from season to season from
> the permitted birds' prior molts for the purpose of
> 'imping'(repairing a damaged flight feather). Most
> states include this permission along with the permit
> to hold a captive bird.
>
> Captive bred birds are also regulated, and births ,
> deaths and disposition of any body parts must be
> reported.
>
>  The imping is more common among the actual falcons
> then hawks although Goldens also tend to screw up new
> feathers.
>
> However, possession of ANY raptor in the US or Canada
> is strictly regulated and violators are fined and
> jailed. Obtaining a permit is only after a several
> year apprentice program in all states and Canada.
>
> The majority of the feathers that you see Native
> Indians using at powwows etc are either turkey or
> goose feathers. Possession of actual raptor feathers
> for religious ceremonies is as Kris stated regulated.
> There are very few such actual ceremonys performed
> today, mostly in the southwest and the upper midwest,
> and the feathers used are almost always from
> accidental death birds.
>
> jake
>
> jake
>
>
> --- Kristine Weisbrod Massin <kwmprairie at hotmail_com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Okay--I've had to enforce this law before and that
> > is NOT how it works.  NO
> > ONE in the US can possess any part (whether feather,
> > talon, or whathaveyou)
> > or nest of any migratory bird (including neotropical
> > migrants such as robins
> > & bluebirds).  In addition to this law, the Bald and
> > Golden Eagle Act and
> > (up until this year) the Endangered Species Act
> > (bald eagle only) also
> > protect these birds.  Those are the laws which
> > prevent ANYONE--whether
> > native american, ignorant 7 year old, or trigger
> > happy redneck--from
> > possessing or harming these birds.  IF you think
> > about it for a minute the
> > reason they had to ban possession rather than just
> > killing is pretty
> > obvious--very difficult to have witnesses everywhere
> > to see someone poison
> > or shoot an eagle.  Everyone could simply claim that
> > they found the body or
> > feathers or whatever.
> >
> > HOWEVER, anyone who has a valid use for eagle
> > feathers or parts--whether
> > that use is religious or educational--may fill out
> > an application, submit it
> > to the Fish & Wildlife Service, and get put on the
> > waiting list.  When your
> > name comes up, your bird or bird parts will be
> > shipped to you.  Anyone
> > finding any raptor body or parts (electrocution is
> > the number one cause of
> > death for these birds)is supposed to get the birds
> > to the National Eagle and
> > Wildlife Repository which is located just north of
> > Denver, CO (and
> > incidentally at the same complex where I work)--you
> > can either mail them or
> > turn them over to your state agency which will do it
> > for you.
> >
> > If you have a VALID use for a part, it is purely
> > first-come, first-serve.
> > Even though I eat lunch with the repository staff &
> > work for the FWS, I have
> > exactly the same wait time as everyone else when I
> > need a part for my
> > education programs.  Right now, it is about 2 years
> > if you want a whole
> > adult bird--juvenile birds are less, and parts &
> > feathers are considerably
> > less.
> >
> > Take the time to find out what the laws really are
> > before you start spouting
> > off next time.
> >
> > -kris
> >
> > >From: piney01 at webtv_net (Francis Wagner)
> > >Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com
> > >To: nfc at actwin_com
> > >Subject: Re: NFC: RE: Auctions OT ?
> > >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:21:32 -0400 (EDT)
> > >
> > >yes i agree with that. i heard on the news
> > yesterday that if a whiteman
> > >like us pick up a feather from a bald  eagle and
> > keeps it and takes it
> > >home and if the police or  the government knows you
> > have one they will
> > >give you a heavy fine and you could go to jail. the
> > only people that can
> > >keep them are the redskins the the united states.
> > that makes me sick.
> > >why is that      us white folks are always being
> > picked on. we should
> > >turn the table around for a change.     frank
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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