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Re: NFC: Eagle Parts was RE: Auctions OT ?

Kris you are on target, another  use is for those
holding valid Falconry permits, some wing (flight
feathers) can be retained from season to season from
the permitted birds' prior molts for the purpose of
'imping'(repairing a damaged flight feather). Most
states include this permission along with the permit
to hold a captive bird.

Captive bred birds are also regulated, and births ,
deaths and disposition of any body parts must be

 The imping is more common among the actual falcons
then hawks although Goldens also tend to screw up new

However, possession of ANY raptor in the US or Canada
is strictly regulated and violators are fined and
jailed. Obtaining a permit is only after a several
year apprentice program in all states and Canada.

The majority of the feathers that you see Native
Indians using at powwows etc are either turkey or
goose feathers. Possession of actual raptor feathers
for religious ceremonies is as Kris stated regulated.
There are very few such actual ceremonys performed
today, mostly in the southwest and the upper midwest,
and the feathers used are almost always from
accidental death birds.



--- Kristine Weisbrod Massin <kwmprairie at hotmail_com>
> Okay--I've had to enforce this law before and that
> is NOT how it works.  NO 
> ONE in the US can possess any part (whether feather,
> talon, or whathaveyou) 
> or nest of any migratory bird (including neotropical
> migrants such as robins 
> & bluebirds).  In addition to this law, the Bald and
> Golden Eagle Act and 
> (up until this year) the Endangered Species Act
> (bald eagle only) also 
> protect these birds.  Those are the laws which
> prevent ANYONE--whether 
> native american, ignorant 7 year old, or trigger
> happy redneck--from 
> possessing or harming these birds.  IF you think
> about it for a minute the 
> reason they had to ban possession rather than just
> killing is pretty 
> obvious--very difficult to have witnesses everywhere
> to see someone poison 
> or shoot an eagle.  Everyone could simply claim that
> they found the body or 
> feathers or whatever.
> HOWEVER, anyone who has a valid use for eagle
> feathers or parts--whether 
> that use is religious or educational--may fill out
> an application, submit it 
> to the Fish & Wildlife Service, and get put on the
> waiting list.  When your 
> name comes up, your bird or bird parts will be
> shipped to you.  Anyone 
> finding any raptor body or parts (electrocution is
> the number one cause of 
> death for these birds)is supposed to get the birds
> to the National Eagle and 
> Wildlife Repository which is located just north of
> Denver, CO (and 
> incidentally at the same complex where I work)--you
> can either mail them or 
> turn them over to your state agency which will do it
> for you.
> If you have a VALID use for a part, it is purely
> first-come, first-serve.  
> Even though I eat lunch with the repository staff &
> work for the FWS, I have 
> exactly the same wait time as everyone else when I
> need a part for my 
> education programs.  Right now, it is about 2 years
> if you want a whole 
> adult bird--juvenile birds are less, and parts &
> feathers are considerably 
> less.
> Take the time to find out what the laws really are
> before you start spouting 
> off next time.
> -kris
> >From: piney01 at webtv_net (Francis Wagner)
> >Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com
> >To: nfc at actwin_com
> >Subject: Re: NFC: RE: Auctions OT ?
> >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:21:32 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >yes i agree with that. i heard on the news
> yesterday that if a whiteman
> >like us pick up a feather from a bald  eagle and
> keeps it and takes it
> >home and if the police or  the government knows you
> have one they will
> >give you a heavy fine and you could go to jail. the
> only people that can
> >keep them are the redskins the the united states.
> that makes me sick.
> >why is that      us white folks are always being
> picked on. we should
> >turn the table around for a change.     frank
> >
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