Robert..... Got a call out today for a snake in a pool..... So I got ya a 1.5-2 footer garter. Meaner than anything...... What ya want me to do with it (looks almost big enuff to eat....but since you got first dibs on it....I'll wait to see what ya got to say!) Chris Guppenberger Research Biologist <((((< <((((< <((((< Visit us on the web! http://www.floridafishresearch.com