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Uh hey it tells you how to do it yourself at the bottom of every post.
Chris Hedemark - Hillsborough, NC
http://yonderway.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Carroll" <eagle at on-net_net>
To: <NFC at actwin_com>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 4:44 PM
Subject: NFC: Re: Native Fish Conservancy Digest V2 #433
> remove from list eagle at on-net_net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Native Fish Conservancy Digest" <NFC-Owner at actwin_com>
> To: <NFC at actwin_com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 3:18 AM
> Subject: Native Fish Conservancy Digest V2 #433
>
>
> >
> > Native Fish Conservancy Digest Thursday, January 25 2001 Volume 02 :
> Number 433
> >
> >
> >
> > In this issue:
> >
> > Re: NFC: cories?
> > Re: NFC: cories?
> > Re: NFC: Re: Kinda OT...Book Question
> > Re: NFC: cories?
> > Re: NFC: AUCTION Update-ADDED 2LB LIVE WORMS
> > NFC: Re: 10g Office Tank
> > Re: NFC: 10g Office Tank
> > Re: NFC: 10g Office Tank
> > [none]
> > Re: NFC: cories?
> > Re: NFC: Re: Kinda OT...Book Question
> > Re: NFC: 10g Office Tank
> > NFC: Re: Duckweed removal
> >
> > See the end of the digest for information on unsubscribing from the
> > NFC Digest mailing list and on how to retrieve back issues.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:58:01 -0500
> > From: "Scott D. Goett" <sdgoett at ufl_edu>
> > Subject: Re: NFC: cories?
> >
> > I am in Broward country now. If you can send me directions or a
location
> really soon I may stop there on my way back to gainesville and give my new
> net a try and try to find me some.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > Doug Dame wrote:
> >
> > > Scott Goett wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Does anyone know if and where you can
> > > >> find/collect cories or other small catfish
> > > >> in FL?
> > >
> > > Scott, if Chris "Bucket Boy" Guppenberger doesn't respond to this ...
I
> was expecting that he would ...[insert "Final Jeopardy" music here] ... I
> think I can tell/show you on a map where he took us a couple of months ago
> in north Broward county where we found some exotic cory-type catfish that
> AFAIK we still haven't definitely identified. They weren't exactly
plentiful
> on that day, but we did get some.
> > >
> > > Doug
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:06:47 -0800 (PST)
> > From: jake levi <jlevi_us at yahoo_com>
> > Subject: Re: NFC: cories?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > are you netting chads now?
> >
> > jake
> > - --- "Scott D. Goett" <sdgoett at ufl_edu> wrote:
> > > I am in Broward country now. If you can send me
> > > directions or a location really soon I may stop
> > > there on my way back to gainesville and give my new
> > > net a try and try to find me some.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
> > > Doug Dame wrote:
> > >
> > > > Scott Goett wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> Does anyone know if and where you can
> > > > >> find/collect cories or other small catfish
> > > > >> in FL?
> > > >
> > > > Scott, if Chris "Bucket Boy" Guppenberger doesn't
> > > respond to this ... I was expecting that he would
> > > ...[insert "Final Jeopardy" music here] ... I think
> > > I can tell/show you on a map where he took us a
> > > couple of months ago in north Broward county where
> > > we found some exotic cory-type catfish that AFAIK we
> > > still haven't definitely identified. They weren't
> > > exactly plentiful on that day, but we did get some.
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:27:18 -0800
> > From: "Norman Edelen" <normane at edelendoors_com>
> > Subject: Re: NFC: Re: Kinda OT...Book Question
> >
> > I think Peter goes by Gina in the US.
> >
> > Norm
> >
> > - -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > A proud member of
> > The Greater Portland Aquarium Society
> > www.gpas.org
> > - -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > The North American Native Fishes Association: over
> > 20 years of conservation efforts, public education, and
> > aquarium study of our native fishes. Check it out at
> > www.nanfa.org
> >
> > - ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Denkhaus, Robert <DenkhaR at Ci_Fort-Worth.TX.US>
> > To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:44 PM
> > Subject: RE: NFC: Re: Kinda OT...Book Question
> >
> >
> > Ty,
> >
> > I checked with our volunteer librarian (who is a retired professional
> > librarian) regarding your dilemma. She suggests three possibilities:
> >
> > 1) They are different books.
> > 2) They are the same book but one is in paperback and the other is
> hardback
> > - - apparently they get different ISBN's because of their physical
> > differences.
> > 3) They are the same book and somebody made a mistake. (She says this
is
> > rare for ISBN's)
> >
> > She recommends that you check the publisher(s) if possible and of course
> the
> > basics like number of pages, chapters, figures/photos, etc. If you
can't
> > find this info, she says to check with your local library...that's what
> they
> > get paid for.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Rob Denkhaus
> > Fort Worth Nature Center & Refuge
> >
> > - -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ty_Hall at eFunds_Com [mailto:Ty_Hall at eFunds_Com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:09 PM
> > To: nfc at actwin_com
> > Subject: Re: NFC: Re: Kinda OT...Book Question
> >
> >
> >
> > Magazine Article: "Creating a natural aquarium", by Peter Hiscock, ISBN
> > 1-903098-11-4. Cover depicts a frame of hand drawn images surrounding a
> > black box that shows the book title, in green, a small descriptive
> > paragraph, a photo of a fish tank and the author's name. Price: 7.99
(UK,
> > can't do the L with the line through on my keyboard, pounds I think)
> >
> > Amazon: "Creating a natural aquarium", by Gina Sanford, ISBN 0764561413.
> > Cover depicts a frame of hand drawn images (different images then above)
> > surrounding a black box that shows the book title, in green, a small
> > descriptive paragraph (same exact paragraph), a photo of a fish tank
> > (different tank) and no author's name. Price $11.96
> >
> > I want the book described in the article but am not sure they are the
> same.
> >
> > Is there a place to look up ISBN numbers?
> >
> > Ty
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:01:22 -0500
> > From: "Doug Dame" <dameda at shands_ufl.edu>
> > Subject: Re: NFC: cories?
> >
> > Scott Goett wrote:
> >
> > >> I am in Broward country now. If you can
> > > > send me directions or a location really
> > >> soon I may stop there on my way back
> > >> to gainesville and give my new net a try
> > >> and try to find me some.
> >
> > Well, Mr. Guided-Fish-Missile, I'm at the office right now and don't
have
> my map handy to (refresh my memory and) give you an instant answer, but do
> you have a DeLorme Florida Gazetteer to follow along or will I be needing
to
> spell out everything in detail? (Unpaved roads are involved, and they're
> washboardy but they're county-maintained, since there's' a std. concrete
> boat ramp etc at the end.)
> >
> > Of course ... if you were just haaaaaaanging around down there in
Broward
> with nuthin' useful to do, you could go out collecting more than once. And
> if you're really focusing on bringing back some of these trophy
"exo-cats",
> you actually might need to do that ... they're weren't exactly plentiful
> when we were there, we probably came really close to landing 1.0 per
> man-hour. But when Chris had been there before, he apparently got 30 or 40
> in 10 minutes or less, so there's clearly MoN* involved, YMMV.
> >
> > And if you do have the later kind of success, plan on bringing back a
> dozen or so more than you personally want to keep, please I'd take a
couple
> myself, and by random strange chance the USGS "Nonindigenous Aquatic
> Species" people are located here in Gainesville, we could maybe take some
> over and see what they thought of 'em ... I suspect they'd be interested,
> since I'm not sure these little guys are in their database yet. (Heh, we
> might even get little gold stars for our foreheads and spiffy paper badges
> proclaiming us as official "Honorary Junior USGS Scientists." That doesn't
> happen every day. At least, not to me.)
> >
> > Doug Dame
> > Interlachen FL
> >
> >
> >
> > * Mysteries of Nature.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:08:16 EST
> > From: BR0630 at aol_com
> > Subject: Re: NFC: AUCTION Update-ADDED 2LB LIVE WORMS
> >
> > I'll bid $10 on the worms.
> > Bruce Scott
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:11:57 -0500
> > From: "Chris Hedemark" <chris at yonderway_com>
> > Subject: NFC: Re: 10g Office Tank
> >
> > Any pygmy sunfish would be neat in that tank. You could do 3 or 4 SRBD
or
> > MRBD. I wouldn't do both at the same time. American Flagfish would be
> cool
> > in there.
> >
> > I've had bad experiences breeding in small tanks like that though. The
> > sudden increase in bioload is tough on a little tank unless you are
really
> > on top of it.
> >
> > Chris Hedemark - Hillsborough, NC
> > http://yonderway.com
> > - ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "chuckmiro" <chuckmiro at wdn_com>
> > To: "ML - NFC (E-mail)" <nfc at actwin_com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:15 PM
> > Subject: NFC: 10g Office Tank
> >
> >
> > > I have a 10g tank in my office. Right now, I've got a couple of
eastern
> > > mudminnows and a bunch of White Clouds. If I got rid of the minnows,
> what
> > > other natives would be suitable for a 10g?
> > >
> > > I think it'd be neat to have a breeding population of something?
Should
> I
> > > get more mudminnows (I think I've got two of the same sex right now),
or
> > > something else?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Chuck/Washington, DC
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:48:33 -0500 (EST)
> > From: stonecreeklock at webtv_net (Joseph Eisenhart)
> > Subject: Re: NFC: 10g Office Tank
> >
> > Hi Chuck, just to register my pick for your 10 gal office tank
> > ,Heterandia formosa!!! I flnd myself mesmerized by my 10 gal planted
> > colony. If I've not completely inspired you, go to our articles. re-read
> > " The Littlest Livebearer", and fall in love all over again.
> >
> > Joe LMD State College, PA USA
> > www.egroups.com/group/UniQuaria :
> > www.geocities.com/rr1fish :
> > For the best fish in the net...Do Drop In < *( ( ( ( (><
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:49:29 -0500 (EST)
> > From: stonecreeklock at webtv_net (Joseph Eisenhart)
> > Subject: Re: NFC: 10g Office Tank
> >
> > Hi Chuck, just to register my pick for your 10 gal office tank
> > ,Heterandia formosa!!! I flnd myself mesmerized by my 10 gal planted
> > colony. If I've not completely inspired you, go to our articles. re-read
> > " The Littlest Livebearer", and fall in love all over again.
> >
> > Joe LMD State College, PA USA
> > www.egroups.com/group/UniQuaria :
> > www.geocities.com/rr1fish :
> > For the best fish in the net...Do Drop In < *( ( ( ( (><
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:16:09 -0800 (PST)
> > From: BILL HOPPE <zzzzzzbill at yahoo_com>
> > Subject: [none]
> >
> > $ 10 ON THE REDWORMS
> >
> > =====
> > Bill Hoppe
> > Yellville Arkansas
> > Why Yellville ? It saves on phone bills .
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:54:28 -0500
> > From: "Scott D. Goett" <sdgoett at ufl_edu>
> > Subject: Re: NFC: cories?
> >
> > I don't have a Gazetteer and I also haven't completed my net (ran into a
> little difficulty with it). I am also heading back to gainesville
tomorrow
> so by the time I find out where it is, it will probably bo too late and I
> won't have the net done anyway. Maybe another time. Next time we get
> together though I will have to get directions there so when I am heading
> back from visiting my parents in S. FL I can try to get me some
> (unfortunately that might not be for a while). I might have to make a
> special trip for it. By the way...are you sure it is in Broward county?
I
> thought it was near Titusville (which I am pretty
> > sure isn't in Broward - perhaps Brevard?).
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > Doug Dame wrote:
> >
> > > Scott Goett wrote:
> > >
> > > >> I am in Broward country now. If you can
> > > > > send me directions or a location really
> > > >> soon I may stop there on my way back
> > > >> to gainesville and give my new net a try
> > > >> and try to find me some.
> > >
> > > Well, Mr. Guided-Fish-Missile, I'm at the office right now and don't
> have my map handy to (refresh my memory and) give you an instant answer,
but
> do you have a DeLorme Florida Gazetteer to follow along or will I be
needing
> to spell out everything in detail? (Unpaved roads are involved, and
they're
> washboardy but they're county-maintained, since there's' a std. concrete
> boat ramp etc at the end.)
> > >
> > > Of course ... if you were just haaaaaaanging around down there in
> Broward with nuthin' useful to do, you could go out collecting more than
> once. And if you're really focusing on bringing back some of these trophy
> "exo-cats", you actually might need to do that ... they're weren't exactly
> plentiful when we were there, we probably came really close to landing 1.0
> per man-hour. But when Chris had been there before, he apparently got 30
or
> 40 in 10 minutes or less, so there's clearly MoN* involved, YMMV.
> > >
> > > And if you do have the later kind of success, plan on bringing back a
> dozen or so more than you personally want to keep, please I'd take a
couple
> myself, and by random strange chance the USGS "Nonindigenous Aquatic
> Species" people are located here in Gainesville, we could maybe take some
> over and see what they thought of 'em ... I suspect they'd be interested,
> since I'm not sure these little guys are in their database yet. (Heh, we
> might even get little gold stars for our foreheads and spiffy paper badges
> proclaiming us as official "Honorary Junior USGS Scientists." That doesn't
> happen every day. At least, not to me.)
> > >
> > > Doug Dame
> > > Interlachen FL
> > >
> > > * Mysteries of Nature.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:13:12 -0700
> > From: "james graham" <busterg at voyager_net>
> > Subject: Re: NFC: Re: Kinda OT...Book Question
> >
> > Norm,
> > Does normane at edelendoors_com e-mail address work?
> > Jim Graham
> > Hastings, Mi
> >
> >
> > - ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Norman Edelen <normane at edelendoors_com>
> > To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 5:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: NFC: Re: Kinda OT...Book Question
> >
> >
> > > I think Peter goes by Gina in the US.
> > >
> > > Norm
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > A proud member of
> > > The Greater Portland Aquarium Society
> > > www.gpas.org
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > The North American Native Fishes Association: over
> > > 20 years of conservation efforts, public education, and
> > > aquarium study of our native fishes. Check it out at
> > > www.nanfa.org
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Denkhaus, Robert <DenkhaR at Ci_Fort-Worth.TX.US>
> > > To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:44 PM
> > > Subject: RE: NFC: Re: Kinda OT...Book Question
> > >
> > >
> > > Ty,
> > >
> > > I checked with our volunteer librarian (who is a retired professional
> > > librarian) regarding your dilemma. She suggests three possibilities:
> > >
> > > 1) They are different books.
> > > 2) They are the same book but one is in paperback and the other is
> > hardback
> > > - apparently they get different ISBN's because of their physical
> > > differences.
> > > 3) They are the same book and somebody made a mistake. (She says this
> is
> > > rare for ISBN's)
> > >
> > > She recommends that you check the publisher(s) if possible and of
course
> > the
> > > basics like number of pages, chapters, figures/photos, etc. If you
> can't
> > > find this info, she says to check with your local library...that's
what
> > they
> > > get paid for.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > > Rob Denkhaus
> > > Fort Worth Nature Center & Refuge
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ty_Hall at eFunds_Com [mailto:Ty_Hall at eFunds_Com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:09 PM
> > > To: nfc at actwin_com
> > > Subject: Re: NFC: Re: Kinda OT...Book Question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Magazine Article: "Creating a natural aquarium", by Peter Hiscock,
ISBN
> > > 1-903098-11-4. Cover depicts a frame of hand drawn images surrounding
a
> > > black box that shows the book title, in green, a small descriptive
> > > paragraph, a photo of a fish tank and the author's name. Price: 7.99
> (UK,
> > > can't do the L with the line through on my keyboard, pounds I think)
> > >
> > > Amazon: "Creating a natural aquarium", by Gina Sanford, ISBN
0764561413.
> > > Cover depicts a frame of hand drawn images (different images then
above)
> > > surrounding a black box that shows the book title, in green, a small
> > > descriptive paragraph (same exact paragraph), a photo of a fish tank
> > > (different tank) and no author's name. Price $11.96
> > >
> > > I want the book described in the article but am not sure they are the
> > same.
> > >
> > > Is there a place to look up ISBN numbers?
> > >
> > > Ty
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:49:31 -0800
> > From: Wright Huntley <huntley1 at home_com>
> > Subject: Re: NFC: 10g Office Tank
> >
> > chuckmiro wrote:
> > >
> > > > one of my favorite groups for a 10g is a couple of
> > > > Flagfish, in a heavily planted tank they are great and
> > > > fascinating(to me).
> > >
> > > Thanks Jake. I might be interested in keeping the flagfish. I recently
> saw a
> > > nice color picture of them. Could I keep a male and a female in an
> unheated
> > > tank? Is there a possibility that they'd breed?
> >
> > I've bred them in a 10G tank, but they had to be separated by a divider
> > before and after the spawning or he would have killed her. The males are
> > pretty colors, but the females are more varied in color and pattern. In
a
> > small tank, I would keep only females. YMMV.
> >
> > Wright
> >
> > - --
> > Wright Huntley, Fremont CA, USA, 510 494-8679 huntleyone at home dot
com
> >
> > Paranoids of the world arise!
> > You have nothing to lose but your...
> > Oh, NO! They are out to get those too?
> >
> > *** http://www.libertarian.org/ ***
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:54:09 -0500
> > From: robert a rice <robertrice at juno_com>
> > Subject: NFC: Re: Duckweed removal
> >
> > the duckweed removal site is up...visit it at
> > http://www.nativefish.org/duckweed.index.html
> >
> > Robert Rice NFC President
> > Save those Fishes, Join the Native Fish Conservancy
> > http://www.nativefish.org
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of Native Fish Conservancy Digest V2 #433
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