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Re: NFC: listbot or egroups...

	Ah. Majordomo is the culprit, then. Time to switch to a more
modern mailing list software ... ezmlm (Easy Mailing List Manager). 

	It will take care of bounces automatically (if an address bounces
>x number of mails, the user gets unsubscribed automatically). Messages
bigger than a set size get rejected. I think you can also setup MIME
attachments to be removed automatically (but don't hold me on that. I have
not tried it). It can have a digest option and also do an archive. You can
request back messages via email. I like ezmlm although to
subscribe/unsubscribe through a slightly different process.

	You could try asking Actwin to switch to ezmlm (one of the qmail
family of products). It's free. If not, my service provider
(http://emigratus.com) runs ezmlm.


On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 robertrice at juno_com wrote:

> basically the actwin lists are to labor intensive. The signup/usubscribe
> proccess takes to many steps (most systems have a subscribe/unsubscribe
> option box) on actwin it often gets the list administrator involvd. Now
> if there is a dead email oh my poor josh will get dozens of emails about
> it its just a lot of work. I agree a text list is a preffered way will do
> somemore research on this lil side issue
> Robert Rice NFC  President
> Save those Fishes,  Join the Native Fish Conservancy
> http://www.nativefish.org
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:24:19 -0600 (EST) Sajjad Lateef <sajjad at acm_org>
> writes:
> > 
> > I vote for a plain-text mailing list myself. It's a lot faster with 
> > my old
> > 14.4 modem when downloading plain text. 
> > 
> > It doesn't matter who hosts the mailing list, as far as I am 
> > concerned.
> > But, it should be reliable and supported full-time (with apologies 
> > to
> > Hedemark, but, he did say that if things break, then it would be 
> > difficult
> > to fix in a short time. And, the NFC money is better spent on 
> > conservation
> > rather than computers).
> > 
> > Perhaps, Robert or Joshua could share with us what problems they 
> > are
> > having with actwin.com so that we get to the source of this 
> > discussion. 
> > 
> > I know someone who runs a Data Center. I have my personal web page 
> > and one
> > mailing list hosted there. If you need a reliable service provider 
> > for a
> > mailing list, I can recommend them.
> > 
> > 
> > Sajjad 
> > 
> > 
> Robert Rice NFC  President
> Save those Fishes,  Join the Native Fish Conservancy
> http://www.nativefish.org