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Re: NFC: : Re: political thread (From The Emporer)

I hadnt realized you got delisted...LOL... I tune out
most political rants and raves..so I hadnt missed you.

point is there is a difference between aquarists,
collectors, conservationists and professional fish
demagogues... so there will always be a variety of
posts offered.. the problems come in when one group
feels somehow superior to any other group.

Playing games on the internet is really a poor way to
get your jollies in my opinion as it usually leads to
just more and more misunderstandings.
Klaus

--- Gary Rollwage <greensunfish at hotmail_com> wrote:
> After being drawn into some REAL off-topic battles
> on the NANFA list and
> being purged off the list(you can't really eliminate
> someone)in the
> last month---
> I have learned a thing or two---
> 
> 1)People want to communicate on the
> list---especially when it is
> winter and there is nothing much else to do.  The
> topics
> may stray but they still come back to the fish
> topics
> eventually.
> 
> 2)People are fun to jack with---especially the ones
> that are so
> serious.
> 
> 3)So sue me...(or delete me).
> 
> 
> >From: jake levi <jlevi_us at yahoo_com>
> >Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com
> >To: nfc at actwin_com
> >Subject: Re: NFC: : Re: political thread (From The
> Emporer)
> >Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 18:11:29 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >My 2 cents:
> >
> >If it aint broke, dont fix it.
> >
> >this list works, leave it as is.
> >
> >All politics discussions are dumb, except mine.
> >
> >if you dont like the subject title delete it.
> >
> >if you dont like the list, leave it.
> >
> >I guess that was 5 cents worth. sue me.
> >jake
> >
> >--- Joshua L Wiegert <jlw at pi_dune.net> wrote:
> > > Unfortunately, its not really my place as list
> > > admin. to really say what
> > > is valid to discuss on the list when it is on
> topic.
> > >  Obviously, I can
> > > yell, "No!  You can't flirt with me here, send
> the
> > > flirtations to my
> > > private e-mail box!" or "This isn't a valid
> place to
> > > discuss breeding your
> > > rainbowfish."  But, the issue of politics on the
> > > list is an interesting
> > > one.
> > > On the one hand, politicial garbage can irritate
> the
> > > heck out of everyone.
> > > Usually, political debates tend to quickly turn
> into
> > > "No!  I'm a
> > > demublican, and you're not!  I'm COOL and you
> SUCK"
> > > -- if not to that
> > > outright words, to that level.  Political
> debates,
> > > as robert drew on, are
> > > much  like religious debates.  Is there a god,
> are
> > > there many, I don't
> > > know for sure.   I have my opinions, everyone
> else
> > > has theirs, and none of
> > > us will ever talk the ot her into our own point
> of
> > > view.
> > > So -- to preven this sort of nonsensical chatter
> > > that just annoys most
> > > people, should political topics be barred as off
> > > topic, or moved to
> > > another list?
> > > Conservation is certainly a political topic, on
> the
> > > ohter hand.
> > > Certainly, if the government wants to build a
> > > nuclear waste disposal
> > > system on top of "dessert wasteland" that is
> > > actually the breeding ground
> > > of a number of pupfish, it takes political
> action to
> > > do something.  And,
> > > certainly, different politicians are better at
> > > conservation than others.
> > > Lets face facts -- grassroots conservation
> projects:
> > > cleaning up streams,
> > > breeding programs, and so forth; will only cut
> it so
> > > far.  Political
> > > issues are relevant and a part of conservation.
> > > To say, "Political topics are out of bounds, not
> to
> > > be discussed, and just
> > > act to annoy people and start flame wars" or to
> say,
> > > "Political topics
> > > should be discussed on NFCPolitics at actwin_com"
> would
> > > be nearly as foolish
> > > as saying, "Collectings topics are off limits,
> > > should not be discussed,
> > > they upset people" or saying, "No one should
> talk
> > > about planning
> > > collecting trips -- I live in DC, and am tired
> of
> > > hearing about how you
> > > FLorida folks get to collect!  I don't get to
> come
> > > along, so I shouldn't
> > > have to hear about it!"
> > >
> > > So, the bottom line is:
> > >
> > > Political stuff is on topic.  However, knowing
> where
> > > it can go, when it
> > > drops to flame or innane levels, its to be
> dropped.
> > > Immediately.  If you
> > > flame or otherwise attack someone's beleifs or
> such,
> > > I'll unsubscribe you
> > > without warning.  As far as not wanting to
> listen to
> > > it or so forth, it
> > > only takes a second to hit the delete key.  I
> don't
> > > actually read half the
> > > mail I get, so trust me, having a few more to
> delete
> > > is no big deal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  end
> > >   ____^__
> > > ><,Darwin,>
> > > Joshua L. Wiegert
> > > NFC Lists Administrator
> > > JLW at pi_dune.net
> > > www.geocities.com/RainForest/Jungle/1680/
> > > owner-nfc at actwin_com
> > > ICQ 69551951                                    
> AIM
> > > UID: Etheosoma
> > > Feel free to contact me by any of the above
> means
> > > for any reason.
> > >
>
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> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 robertrice at juno_com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:09:48 -0500
> > > > From: robertrice at juno_com
> > > > Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com
> > > > To: nfc at actwin_com
> > > > Subject: NFC: : Re: political thread
> > > >
> > > > A more practical approach is to just stay on
> 
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