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Re: NFC: : Re: political thread (From The Emporer)

My 2 cents:

If it aint broke, dont fix it.

this list works, leave it as is.

All politics discussions are dumb, except mine.

if you dont like the subject title delete it.

if you dont like the list, leave it.

I guess that was 5 cents worth. sue me.

--- Joshua L Wiegert <jlw at pi_dune.net> wrote:
> Unfortunately, its not really my place as list
> admin. to really say what
> is valid to discuss on the list when it is on topic.
>  Obviously, I can
> yell, "No!  You can't flirt with me here, send the
> flirtations to my
> private e-mail box!" or "This isn't a valid place to
> discuss breeding your
> rainbowfish."  But, the issue of politics on the
> list is an interesting
> one.
> On the one hand, politicial garbage can irritate the
> heck out of everyone.
> Usually, political debates tend to quickly turn into
> "No!  I'm a
> demublican, and you're not!  I'm COOL and you SUCK"
> -- if not to that
> outright words, to that level.  Political debates,
> as robert drew on, are
> much  like religious debates.  Is there a god, are
> there many, I don't
> know for sure.   I have my opinions, everyone else
> has theirs, and none of
> us will ever talk the ot her into our own point of
> view.
> So -- to preven this sort of nonsensical chatter
> that just annoys most
> people, should political topics be barred as off
> topic, or moved to
> another list?
> Conservation is certainly a political topic, on the
> ohter hand.
> Certainly, if the government wants to build a
> nuclear waste disposal
> system on top of "dessert wasteland" that is
> actually the breeding ground
> of a number of pupfish, it takes political action to
> do something.  And,
> certainly, different politicians are better at
> conservation than others.
> Lets face facts -- grassroots conservation projects:
> cleaning up streams,
> breeding programs, and so forth; will only cut it so
> far.  Political
> issues are relevant and a part of conservation.
> To say, "Political topics are out of bounds, not to
> be discussed, and just
> act to annoy people and start flame wars" or to say,
> "Political topics
> should be discussed on NFCPolitics at actwin_com" would
> be nearly as foolish
> as saying, "Collectings topics are off limits,
> should not be discussed,
> they upset people" or saying, "No one should talk
> about planning
> collecting trips -- I live in DC, and am tired of
> hearing about how you
> FLorida folks get to collect!  I don't get to come
> along, so I shouldn't
> have to hear about it!"  
> So, the bottom line is:
> Political stuff is on topic.  However, knowing where
> it can go, when it
> drops to flame or innane levels, its to be dropped. 
> Immediately.  If you
> flame or otherwise attack someone's beleifs or such,
> I'll unsubscribe you
> without warning.  As far as not wanting to listen to
> it or so forth, it
> only takes a second to hit the delete key.  I don't
> actually read half the
> mail I get, so trust me, having a few more to delete
> is no big deal.
>  end
>   ____^__
> ><,Darwin,>
> Joshua L. Wiegert
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> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 robertrice at juno_com wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:09:48 -0500
> > From: robertrice at juno_com
> > Reply-To: nfc at actwin_com
> > To: nfc at actwin_com
> > Subject: NFC: : Re: political thread
> > 
> > A more practical approach is to just stay on
> topic. We have done the
> > multiple list things it was a detriment to things.
> I know we all have
> > political and religious beliefs that may be in
> conflict but on this we do
> > agree. Native fish matter and conservation matters
> even more
> > 
> > Robert Rice NFC  President
> > Save those Fishes,  Join the Native Fish
> Conservancy
> > http://www.nativefish.org
> > 

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