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Re: NFC: Fish Disease Help anyone



"Scott D. Goett" wrote:
> 
> So now I am confused.  What should I be using?

I listed three widely-available products below that work very well to bind
up chloramines. Amquel, Prime, or Ammo Lock 2 will all do it. They are *not*
sodium thiosulphate products like Novaqua and other dechlors.

Wright

> 
> Scott
> 
> Wright Huntley wrote:
> 
> > Scott Davis wrote:
> >
> > In response to:
> > >
> > > > The way to get rid of Chloramines is to double the Sodium Thiosulfate
> > > > concentration, which will eventually break down the Chloramines.  That's
> > > the
> > > > stuff in dechlorinator solutions bought at pet stores.  Heavy aeration
> > > also
> > > > helps break Chloramines down.
> > >
> > > Be careful of using just Sodium Thiosulphate or Novaqua on chloramines. That
> > > same thread that Doug Dame alluded to suggested that just getting rid of the
> > > chlorine can lead to a fatal ammonia spike. Perhaps a better case can be
> > > made for Amquel and the like. Still vigorously aerate if possible.
> >
> > I *strongly* second Scott's caution, here.
> >
> > I know of two really major fishrooms that were virtually wiped out by not
> > understanding the dangers of hypo-based dechlor products. In thousands more
> > cases, damaged gills and stunting have resulted as the ammonia burned, but
> > didn't fully kill, the fish.
> >
> > The solution is trivial. Use "Amquel," "Prime," "Ammo lock2," or other
> > products that *do* neutralized the combination of chlorine and ammonia.
> >
> > EPA mandates chloramine in most domestic water, these days, so get rid of
> > any old-style dechlorinator product that you may have around before you do
> > serious damage with it. Pour it down the drain.
> >
> > One clue is to look for ignorant marketing brags like "breaks the chlorine
> > ammonia bond!" That's just about the *last* thing you want happening in your
> > tank. The burst of ammonia is quite deadly if your pH isn't below 7.
> >
> > BTW, EPA is also mandating addition of lime o/e to get pH above 8 so your
> > lead and copper pipes don't poison you. That and chloramine are a wicked 1-2
> > punch for your fish if you use any product, like "Novaqua," based on sodium
> > hypochlorite (photographer's "hypo") to strip the chlorine from chloramine.
> >
> > Wright
> >
> > --
> > Wright Huntley, Fremont CA, USA, 510 494-8679  huntleyone at home dot com
> >
> >           If it ain't broke, don't fix it -- and, especially,
> >             don't let politicians fix it. ... Thomas Sowell
> >
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Wright Huntley, Fremont CA, USA, 510 494-8679  huntleyone at home dot com

          If it ain't broke, don't fix it -- and, especially,
            don't let politicians fix it. ... Thomas Sowell

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